From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Jeremiah@pdp10.guru
Subject: Re: Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:05:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y39rol3k.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lg5slpm4.fsf@gnu.org> (Jan Nieuwenhuizen's message of "Fri, 16 Nov 2018 21:44:03 +0100")
Hello,
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> skribis:
>> IMO we should change the seeds as rarely as possible because they are
>> managed “out-of-band” and verifying them is difficult (you need to fetch
>> the right Guix commit, run “guix build bootstrap-tarballs”, and compare
>> the result—assuming this is all bit-reproducible.)
>>
>> The one we’re using today in Guix date back to 2013.
>
> Okay, I am proposing the attached patches, also available on my
> core-updates-next at http://gitlab.com/janneke/guix
>
> Still I hope these won't last for five more years ;-)
Well I hope these will last for at least a couple of years, or at least
this is what we should aim for.
Replacing bootstrap binaries is not anecdotal as I wrote because these
are “binary blobs” that need a special procedure to verify them; that
they are smaller blobs is of course a crucial improvement, but it
doesn’t change the fact that one may want to verify them.
> From 5702107a31f52a615c516084b7a82d9f5e2967e0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:29:55 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH 1/3] bootstrap: Add mescc-tools-static,
> mescc-tools-static-tarball.
>
> * gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm (%mescc-tools-static,
> %mescc-tools-bootstrap-tarball): New variable.
Neat; I’m glad it was as simple as this. :-)
As discussed yesterday on IRC, please also make sure make-bootstrap.scm
does not refer to (gnu packages bootstrap) at all since that would be
like running in circles.
As discussed just now on IRC, we probably also need #:system
"i686-linux" in the appropriate places such that “guix build
bootstrap-tarballs” gives the same result on i686 and on x86_64.
> From cc3782c5f9d2c606a265be0dfdca44d79ec25622 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 21:30:00 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH 2/3] bootstrap: Add %bootstrap-mescc-tools.
>
> Built with
> 5702107a31f52a615c516084b7a82d9f5e2967e0 bootstrap: Add mescc-tools-static, mescc-tools-static-tarball.
>
> * gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm (%bootstrap-mescc-tools): New variable.
OK.
If you want, before pushing this patch, you can first push the one
above. From there I (and possibly others!) will run “guix build
bootstrap-tarballs” and make sure we get the same result as you did.
> From daa9ff9463917687aabed8330eacb304a7e4deae Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 21:30:28 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH 3/3] bootstrap: Replace %mescc-tools-seed with
> %bootstrap-mescc-tools.
>
> * gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm (%mescc-tools-seed): Remove.
> (%bootstrap-inputs): Replace %mescc-tools-seed with %bootstrap-mescc-tools.
> * gnu/packages/commencement.scm (mes-boot): Likewise.
Also: (mescc-tools-boot): Remove.
> (tcc-boot0): Likewise.
> (mescc-tools-boot): Remove.
I suppose this is not directly related to the other changes, but anyway,
LGTM.
Thanks for the quick reply!
Ludo’.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-17 14:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-15 20:39 Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Jeremiah
2018-11-16 18:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-16 20:44 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-17 14:05 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2018-11-18 7:32 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-18 10:02 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-21 15:20 ` Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs, take 2 Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-24 7:36 ` Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs, take 3 Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-12-03 8:38 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-03 17:25 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-12-03 17:44 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-12-09 14:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-09 14:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-09 14:21 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-09 18:10 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-12-11 17:36 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-12 7:30 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-12-12 23:31 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-12-14 10:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-14 11:48 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-12-14 21:13 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-12-15 18:12 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-16 8:54 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-17 3:49 ` Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Mark H Weaver
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-11-21 3:36 Jeremiah
2018-11-20 0:26 jeremiah
2018-11-20 8:28 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-11-18 12:56 Jeremiah
2018-11-18 18:27 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-18 18:39 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-20 15:45 ` Timothy Sample
2018-11-21 20:32 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-26 18:49 ` Timothy Sample
2018-11-17 14:27 Jeremiah
2018-11-17 23:14 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-19 18:54 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2018-10-14 8:58 [bug#33038] [PATCH 1/6] doc: Move `Reduced Binary Seed Bootstrap' into `Bootstrapping' Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-14 8:58 ` [bug#33038] [PATCH 3/6] bootstrap: Add %bootstrap-mes Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-19 21:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-20 7:35 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-21 21:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-21 21:32 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-23 21:00 ` bug#33038: " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-15 9:06 ` Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-15 15:44 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-16 18:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-16 20:52 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
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