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From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Jeremiah@pdp10.guru
Subject: Re: Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 19:39:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ftvys00m.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8736ryutoy.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:27:30 -0500")

Mark H Weaver writes:

> Anyway, I've answered my own question by looking at:
>
>   https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm?h=core-updates-next&id=d9ed0a46301e259c3082fcc67678e72ceae19a2d#n778
>
> which indicates to me that although gcc, binutils, and glibc have been
> eliminated from the Guix bootstrap binaries, they still include
> statically-linked versions of Guile, Coreutils, Bzip2, XZ, Gawk, Tar,
> and Grep.  These are the remaining precompiled binaries that I'm worried
> about.

As far as I'm concerned our next step after the Reduced Binary Seed
bootstrap--that is yet to be released from core-updates-next---is the
Scheme-only bootstrap.

The plan is to have Guile and Gash initially replace all coreutils&co
and build them from source early in the bootstrap phase, right after
having built tcc and GNU make.  We have managed to build GNU make
without any dependency on any of the tool you mention (except for
Guile).

We're not there yet, gash cannot build mes or tcc.  Also, the latest mes
0.18 release cannot support buillding bash yet.  Lots of fun hacking
todo!

A next step could be to replace bootstrap-guile with mes, or create a
real small version of bootstrappable Guile.

Greetings,
janneke

-- 
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-18 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-18 12:56 Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Jeremiah
2018-11-18 18:27 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-18 18:39   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen [this message]
2018-11-20 15:45     ` Timothy Sample
2018-11-21 20:32       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-26 18:49         ` Timothy Sample
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-11-21  3:36 Jeremiah
2018-11-20  0:26 jeremiah
2018-11-20  8:28 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-11-17 14:27 Jeremiah
2018-11-17 23:14 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-19 18:54 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2018-11-15 20:39 Jeremiah
2018-11-16 18:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-16 20:44   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-17 14:05     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-18  7:32       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-18 10:02         ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-17  3:49   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-10-14  8:58 [bug#33038] [PATCH 1/6] doc: Move `Reduced Binary Seed Bootstrap' into `Bootstrapping' Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-14  8:58 ` [bug#33038] [PATCH 3/6] bootstrap: Add %bootstrap-mes Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-19 21:31   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-20  7:35     ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-21 21:09       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-21 21:32         ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-23 21:00           ` bug#33038: " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-15  9:06             ` Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-15 15:44               ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-16 18:22                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-16 20:52                   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen

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