From: jeremiah@pdp10.guru
To: g@xelera.eu, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 00:26:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877eh81tm4.fsf@ITSx01.pdp10.guru> (raw)
> so, if I don't get it wrong, every skilled engineer will be able to
> build an "almost analogic" (zero bit of software preloaded) computing
> machine ad use stage0/mes [1] as the "metre" [2] to calibrate all other
> computing machines (thanks to reproducible builds)?
well, I haven't thought of it in those terms but yes I guess that is one
of the properties of the plan.
> the first bit of code have to be "manually" introduced in the machine,
> right?
Correct, otherwise you'll have to deal with firmware/bios as a trust
vector to be concerned about.
> for the lazyer like me, what about a punched card? :-)
If someone is willing to figure out how to read a deck of punched cards
without software, I'd be interested in learning more.
> I didn't know about Nexus Intruder attacks: could you please give me
> some links to the relevant bibliography?
I'll see if I can dig those up for you.
> so, having the scientific proof that binary conforms to source, there
> will be noo need to trust (the untrastable)
Well, that is what someone else could do with it but not a direct goal
of the work.
-Jeremiah
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-20 0:26 jeremiah [this message]
2018-11-20 8:28 ` Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Ricardo Wurmus
2018-11-20 15:28 ` Punch cards (was Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs) Timothy Sample
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2018-11-21 3:36 Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Jeremiah
2018-11-18 12:56 Jeremiah
2018-11-18 18:27 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-18 18:39 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-20 15:45 ` Timothy Sample
2018-11-21 20:32 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-26 18:49 ` Timothy Sample
2018-11-17 14:27 Jeremiah
2018-11-17 23:14 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-19 18:54 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2018-11-15 20:39 Jeremiah
2018-11-16 18:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-16 20:44 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-17 14:05 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-18 7:32 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-18 10:02 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-17 3:49 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-10-14 8:58 [bug#33038] [PATCH 1/6] doc: Move `Reduced Binary Seed Bootstrap' into `Bootstrapping' Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-14 8:58 ` [bug#33038] [PATCH 3/6] bootstrap: Add %bootstrap-mes Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-19 21:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-20 7:35 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-21 21:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-21 21:32 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-23 21:00 ` bug#33038: " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-15 9:06 ` Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-15 15:44 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-16 18:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-16 20:52 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
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