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From: Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com>
To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Jeremiah@pdp10.guru
Subject: Re: Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:45:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r2ff4utb.fsf@ngyro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ftvys00m.fsf@gnu.org> (Jan Nieuwenhuizen's message of "Sun, 18 Nov 2018 19:39:37 +0100")

Hi Jan,

Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> writes:

> The plan is to have Guile and Gash initially replace all coreutils&co
> and build them from source early in the bootstrap phase, right after
> having built tcc and GNU make.  We have managed to build GNU make
> without any dependency on any of the tool you mention (except for
> Guile).
>
> We're not there yet, gash cannot build mes or tcc.  Also, the latest mes
> 0.18 release cannot support buillding bash yet.  Lots of fun hacking
> todo!

I wanted to let you know that I’ve been doing more work on the little
Shell backend that we were talking about earlier.  It’s kind of like the
worse-is-better version of Gash: it is certainly not as nice, but the
development pace is much faster.  I did take a look at just working on
Gash directly, but it looked like it was going to be a lot slower.

So, keeping in mind that software estimates are very unreliable, I would
say that I might have a workable interpreter in the next week or two.
There are three big features missing: globbing, asynchronous commands,
and arithmetic substitutions.  I am almost finished globbing,
asynchronous commands should be pretty easy, and I plan to leave
arithmetic substitutions on the road-map for as long as possible (it’s a
little bit boring).

After I get those first two features working, I am going to start
testing running build scripts for Bash.  I will contact you then in case
you have any new advice on which scripts are important or anything else.

> Greetings,
> janneke


-- Tim

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-20 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-18 12:56 Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Jeremiah
2018-11-18 18:27 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-18 18:39   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-20 15:45     ` Timothy Sample [this message]
2018-11-21 20:32       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-26 18:49         ` Timothy Sample
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-11-21  3:36 Jeremiah
2018-11-20  0:26 jeremiah
2018-11-20  8:28 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-11-17 14:27 Jeremiah
2018-11-17 23:14 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-19 18:54 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2018-11-15 20:39 Jeremiah
2018-11-16 18:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-16 20:44   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-17 14:05     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-18  7:32       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-18 10:02         ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-17  3:49   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-10-14  8:58 [bug#33038] [PATCH 1/6] doc: Move `Reduced Binary Seed Bootstrap' into `Bootstrapping' Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-14  8:58 ` [bug#33038] [PATCH 3/6] bootstrap: Add %bootstrap-mes Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-19 21:31   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-20  7:35     ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-21 21:09       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-21 21:32         ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-10-23 21:00           ` bug#33038: " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-15  9:06             ` Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-15 15:44               ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-16 18:22                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-16 20:52                   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen

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