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From: Csepp <raingloom@riseup.net>
To: Jean Pierre De Jesus DIAZ <me@jeandudey.tech>
Cc: 57046@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57046: Spanish documentation uses exclusive language
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 09:48:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h72gk1pc.fsf@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nmKIQSMS_Yk1Ne0TWGaHVNhCIIgONqBpG8ueVBKwz5oTlAjtbhDz3-omhRiSR9H9BwniX2psq7RlngmJpk392UsLUCYTR7Z0y8oUCTk_B4k=@jeandudey.tech>


Jean Pierre De Jesus DIAZ via Bug reports for GNU Guix <bug-guix@gnu.org> writes:

>>Just a thought, but maybe it shouldn't be a group of men who decides
>>what language is and is not inclusive and whether that's important.
>>We've had some Outreachy interns, maybe some of them wouldn't mind being
>>consulted on this.
>
> Inclusion through exclusion, this is just sending the messages that men
> bad anything else better. That just spreads hate for no particular reason.

Please stop putting words in my mouth and arguing in bad faith.

Decisions that affect a group should be made by the group or when that
is not logistically possible then a *representative subset* of the
group.

Roughly half of the population is female.  If you don't think they
should be consulted about decisions that affect them, then you are
taking an undemocratic stance.

Women have to put up with sooo much more bullshit in their daily life
than men, so when free software projects require them putting up with
even more, they will not want to be part of the free software community,
because it demonstrably does not take their concerns seriously.

I'd like to believe that we can do better and make our communities more
welcoming to the people who need tools that liberate them the most.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-13  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-07 15:52 bug#57046: Spanish documentation uses exclusive language lfvega--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-08 10:39 ` Jean Pierre De Jesus DIAZ via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-08 14:18   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-09 13:46     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-08-09 15:45       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-09 17:15         ` Csepp
2022-08-09 20:02           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-10 18:54             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-11 14:33               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-10 13:38         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-12 13:24           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-10  1:23       ` bokr
2022-08-10 17:14         ` Csepp
2022-08-08 11:01 ` bug#57046: (No Subject) Jean Pierre De Jesus DIAZ via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-08 15:29   ` bug#57046: Spanish documentation uses exclusive language lfvega--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-11 17:08 ` Jean Pierre De Jesus DIAZ via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-13  7:48   ` Csepp [this message]
2022-08-13  8:19     ` Jean Pierre De Jesus DIAZ via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-13 10:27     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-10-08 14:09 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)

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