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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de>
Cc: "Emilio Herrera" <ehespinosa57@gmail.com>,
	57046@debbugs.gnu.org,
	"Reynaldo Cordero" <reynaldo.cordero@gmail.com>,
	"Miguel Ángel Arruga Vivas" <rosen644835@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#57046: Spanish documentation uses exclusive language
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 15:46:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edxp7cnq.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r11qiztj.fsf@pelzflorian.de> (pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de's message of "Mon, 08 Aug 2022 16:18:16 +0200")

Hola,

"pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> skribis:

> * the main Spanish translation po/guix/es.po uses usuario
>
> * the French translation switches between “utilisateur·rices”,
>   “utilisatrices et utilisateurs” and more often masculine “utilisateurs”
>
> * the Portuguese, Russian, German translation use masculine (although at
>   least for German I use feminine in some examples)
>
> * German word for users is masculine Benutzer and feminine is
>   Benutzerinnen; there is a psychology study that Benutzer*innen is
>   perceived feminine while listing both masculine and feminine Benutzer
>   und Benutzerinnen is perceived as including men and women (a different
>   language and I might give too much weight to one scientific study)
>   <https://www.hw.uni-wuerzburg.de/aktuelles/news/single/news/gendersternchen-lassen-an-frauen-denken/>

Just like for French, my suggestion would be to use a mixture of several
techniques to achieve gender neutrality, probably in this order:

  • Using gender-neutral words—e.g., “personas” or “quién” rather than
    “usuarios”.

  • Talking to the user: “puedes hacer …” rather than “usuarios pueden
    hacer …”.

  • Using the -e suffix, which has the advantage of being concise and
    readable, but potentially off-putting (at least today).

  • Using repetitions, “usuarias y usuarios”.

Latin languages (among others) are problematic but techniques like these
can get us a long way, and by mixing them we can avoid making the text
hard to read.

Ludo’.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-09 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-07 15:52 bug#57046: Spanish documentation uses exclusive language lfvega--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-08 10:39 ` Jean Pierre De Jesus DIAZ via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-08 14:18   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-09 13:46     ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2022-08-09 15:45       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-09 17:15         ` Csepp
2022-08-09 20:02           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-10 18:54             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-11 14:33               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-10 13:38         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-12 13:24           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-08-10  1:23       ` bokr
2022-08-10 17:14         ` Csepp
2022-08-08 11:01 ` bug#57046: (No Subject) Jean Pierre De Jesus DIAZ via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-08 15:29   ` bug#57046: Spanish documentation uses exclusive language lfvega--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-11 17:08 ` Jean Pierre De Jesus DIAZ via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-13  7:48   ` Csepp
2022-08-13  8:19     ` Jean Pierre De Jesus DIAZ via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-08-13 10:27     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-10-08 14:09 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)

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