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From: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
To: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Packaging a free Firefox
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 14:53:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180506125312.aadd4fixeungiwv6@thebird.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e6dca416-9348-651e-bcc9-21b73282d806@crazy-compilers.com>

On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 11:48:28AM +0200, Hartmut Goebel wrote:
> Am 06.05.2018 um 03:24 schrieb Mike Gerwitz:
> > On Sat, May 05, 2018 at 19:06:27 -0300, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
> >> I have noticed somepeople advocating for packaging Firefox in GNU Guix,
> >> and since FF still has freedom issues, I see it as a no-go.
> > A simple option for now is to package FF by disabling those features and
> > _not_ providing an alternative.  For example, IceCat loads a different
> > addon page than FF; we could just load no addon page at all, or a static
> > one saying that it's something'll we'll get to eventually.
> 
> Not packaging FF or crippling FF is a no-go! Doing so will discourage
> users from using GuixSD and Free Software.

That is an interesting one. GNU Guix, by virtue of it being a GNU
project needs to abide by GNU free software terms. But even among core
project members there are variations in thought in how to compromise
with user requirements. A package manager that does not target user
needs is a shitty package manager. This is one reason I champion the
concept of channels:

guix channel firefox http://some-origin/guix-channels/firefox
guix package -i firefox

so we can make GNU Guix as pure as possible and leverage less pure
concepts (such as Firefox and Conda) into something that is not
considered part of the core project. I think it would also render
other maintenance benefits, for example versioning of old software
would become much easier.

guix channel ruby-1.8 http://some-origin/guix-channels/ruby-1.8
guix package -i ruby

I hope we get something like this at some point.

Pj.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-06 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-02 21:06 Packaging a free Firefox Clément Lassieur
2018-05-02 21:10 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-05-03  5:00   ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-03  5:06     ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-03  5:09     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-03 14:29       ` next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox) Jack Hill
2018-05-03 14:35         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-03 20:23           ` Jack Hill
2018-05-04  3:36             ` Andy Patterson
2018-05-09 16:45               ` Pierre Neidhardt
     [not found]                 ` <20180510020041.1e8b3956@uwaterloo.ca>
     [not found]                   ` <87d0y3hije.fsf@gmail.com>
2018-05-10 14:04                     ` ajpatter
2018-05-10 14:36                       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-11  5:00                         ` Andy Patterson
2018-05-19 19:26                           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-24  9:53                             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-05-24 14:18                               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-24 15:33                                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-05-24 16:44                                   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-24 20:37                                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
     [not found]                     ` <87bmdnhhu8.fsf@gmail.com>
2018-05-10 14:04                       ` ajpatter
2018-05-03  6:06 ` Packaging a free Firefox Chris Marusich
2018-05-03  9:53   ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-03 10:56     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2018-05-11 14:54     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-03 17:59   ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-04 14:24     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-04 16:07       ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-04 16:27       ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-05 12:26         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-15  7:10       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-15  8:57         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-15 10:13           ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-05-16 17:27             ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-15 16:35           ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-17 11:28             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-03 19:07   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-03 20:45   ` Clément Lassieur
2018-05-12 13:28     ` Clément Lassieur
2018-05-05 22:06 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-05-06  1:24   ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-06  6:01     ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-06 13:58       ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-06 16:35         ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-05-06  9:48     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-05-06 12:53       ` Pjotr Prins [this message]
2018-05-16 15:44         ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-16 16:10           ` Tonton
2018-05-16 17:56             ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-17 11:34               ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-17 13:47                 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-17 15:10                   ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-05-17 15:29                     ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-17 17:57                       ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-05-18  4:14                         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-21  4:58                           ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-21 20:07                             ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-22  4:18                               ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-22 19:05                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-07-31  1:51                               ` Pjotr Prins
2018-08-01  0:58                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-21 20:09                           ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-22  3:55                             ` Alex Vong
2018-05-18  5:19                 ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-18  4:25             ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-16 19:07           ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-05-16 19:54           ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-05-16 20:50             ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-17  1:26           ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-17  8:21             ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-05-17 11:36             ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-06 14:05       ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-06 15:32         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-06 16:33         ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-05-07  0:36           ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-07  6:42             ` jah
2018-05-07 16:30           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-08  8:36             ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-08  0:06           ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-08  0:20       ` Mark H Weaver

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