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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: xref-query-replace-in-results error message after xref-find-definitions, was: Re: bug#58158: 29.0.50; [overlay] Interval tree iteration considered harmful
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:05:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wn95b0is.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ca55cea-712b-2e89-cdac-3a1893e3c53e@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:47:15 +0300)

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:47:15 +0300
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> 
> On 12.10.2022 08:17, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> Let's drop the "global" adjective, though: whether the command works
> >> "globally", "locally", or etc, depends on how the user made the search.
> > The "global" part is important, though: it's supposed to hint on why
> > find-definition results cannot be used.  The opposite of "global" here
> > is "partial", not "local".  If you can suggest a better word for
> > "global" here, please do.
> 
> I think you're trying hard to make it clearer, but it still won't have 
> 100% the intended effect.
> 
> And it makes the error more likely to confuse the user and make them 
> misunderstand how things work:
> 
> 1) Saying "Cannot perform global replacement in find-definition 
> results", with the explicit qualifier "global", potentially implies that 
> a "local" replacement in find-definition results can be done. But it 
> cannot. We can't do either currently for technical reasons.
> 
> We don't want to do "local" replacements in find-definition results also 
> for logical reasons, but that's just the reason why we're not in a hurry 
> to remove the technical limitation.
> 
> 2) The message implies 'r' is limited to "global" replacement. But it 
> can easily do "partial" replacement, as long as the command that 
> produces the list returns "match xrefs". dired-do-find-regexp, for 
> example. Or project-find-regexp, when called with C-u, and the user 
> specifies a specific directory. They will return a "partial" list of 
> matches, compared to the full project search.

Sorry, I'm unconvinced.  AFAICT, you are reiterating issues and
arguments we already have been through.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-12 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-29  5:29 bug#58158: 29.0.50; [overlay] Interval tree iteration considered harmful Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29  6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29  7:03   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29  8:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29  9:09       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29  9:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 10:05           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29 10:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 11:33               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29 13:10               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-29 13:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 16:48                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-29 13:40                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 14:15                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29 14:37                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29 22:09                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-30  5:28                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-30  6:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 11:31                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-30 18:29                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-02  8:06                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-06 22:36                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 19:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 18:50                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-10  8:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11  2:12                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11  6:37                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 11:36                                       ` xref-query-replace-in-results error message after xref-find-definitions, was: " Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 11:51                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 12:10                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 12:17                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 12:44                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 12:55                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 14:55                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 16:01                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 16:41                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 16:50                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 20:31                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-12  5:17                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 10:06                                                               ` John Yates
2022-10-12 10:17                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                                   ` <CAJnXXogKsM=gMTFi2NivDMHW4A3EBtBtsNDBV3o5vcu2xXfuvw@mail.gmail.com>
2022-10-12 13:21                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 16:12                                                                       ` John Yates
2022-10-12 13:47                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-12 14:05                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-10-11 14:04                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-11 14:07                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-11 15:07                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 15:37                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 13:25                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-30 14:08                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-30 15:25                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-30 16:04                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 17:11                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-01  5:06                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-01 13:54                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-02  8:22                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-02 16:32                                     ` Andreas Politz
2022-10-03  4:35                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-04 10:50                                         ` Andreas Politz
2022-10-01  7:25                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-01 10:55                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-01 14:01                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-29 16:40                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-01  1:57         ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-01  7:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 22:26 ` Matt Armstrong
2023-10-06 13:14 ` Gerd Möllmann

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