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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: xref-query-replace-in-results error message after xref-find-definitions, was: Re: bug#58158: 29.0.50; [overlay] Interval tree iteration considered harmful
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 17:55:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f549dcd6-62a6-ab96-46ad-4bf20f7e3395@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sfjuecyw.fsf@gnu.org>

On 11.10.2022 15:55, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> But we can try to be helpful by offering an alternative:
>>
>>     Cannot replace in this search; to rename a symbol, invoke
>> \\[xref-find-references] first
> 
> But then we'd need to name the other 2 commands as well, to be
> accurate, yes?

If our conclusion is that the error is due to user trying to rename a 
symbol (and failing because xref-find-definitions's results don't allow 
them to do so), then xref-find-references is exactly the right suggestion.

Users who try to replace in regexp search matches don't see the error.

>>>> Perhaps I should remind that xref-find-definitions is still the main
>>>> exception -- where this command doesn't work.
>>>
>>> But not the only one?
>>
>> The only known one, so far.
> 
> So maybe just saying
> 
>    Cannot do global replacement using results of \\[xref-find-definitions]
> 
> should be okay?

Isn't it almost the same as I suggested upthread? Except I suggested 
"this search" instead of naming the specific command.

Do you think naming it will be helpful enough to sacrifice the 10% 
accuracy of the message? I suppose someone might have indeed forgotten 
that they did the search using xref-find-definitions.

>> That would mean that one 'r' can work in lsp-mode's
>> xref-find-definitions results (they define a bunch of custom commands
>> like lsp-find-definition and lsp-find-declaration, but that probably
>> doesn't matter). Not sure if we should do something about that.
> 
> If 'r' happens to work in that case, we don't have to worry about the
> error message, right?

That's correct, but having the command succeed might be a problem by 
itself, couldn't it? It will rename the definitions (and/or 
declarations), but not other occurrences.

If we go in from this direction, we can have 
xref-show-definitions-buffer (the default 
xref-show-definitions-function) ensure that the binding for 'r' is set 
to some command that always reports an error (like 'cannot replace in 
definitions'), or is unbound.

This would do nothing for custom values of 
xref-show-definitions-function, but should remove most of the confusion 
with default configuration. And some non-default ones as well (lsp-mode 
doesn't change the value of xref-show-definitions-function).

If the docstring of xref-show-definitions-function looks okay to you, we 
can use its vocabulary.

   Cannot replace in definition search results

should cover xref-find-definitions, lsp-find-definition and 
lsp-find-declaration. Wouldn't help with lsp-find-implementation, though 
(its results are also questionable WRT renaming because they don't 
include all references either), but it won't make it worse.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-11 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-29  5:29 bug#58158: 29.0.50; [overlay] Interval tree iteration considered harmful Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29  6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29  7:03   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29  8:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29  9:09       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29  9:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 10:05           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29 10:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 11:33               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29 13:10               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-29 13:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 16:48                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-29 13:40                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 14:15                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29 14:37                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-29 22:09                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-30  5:28                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-30  6:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 11:31                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-30 18:29                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-02  8:06                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-06 22:36                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 19:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 18:50                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-10  8:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11  2:12                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11  6:37                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 11:36                                       ` xref-query-replace-in-results error message after xref-find-definitions, was: " Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 11:51                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 12:10                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 12:17                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 12:44                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 12:55                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 14:55                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2022-10-11 16:01                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 16:41                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 16:50                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 20:31                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-12  5:17                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 10:06                                                               ` John Yates
2022-10-12 10:17                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                                   ` <CAJnXXogKsM=gMTFi2NivDMHW4A3EBtBtsNDBV3o5vcu2xXfuvw@mail.gmail.com>
2022-10-12 13:21                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 16:12                                                                       ` John Yates
2022-10-12 13:47                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-12 14:05                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 14:04                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-11 14:07                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-11 15:07                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 15:37                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 13:25                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-30 14:08                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-30 15:25                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-30 16:04                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 17:11                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-01  5:06                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-01 13:54                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-02  8:22                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-02 16:32                                     ` Andreas Politz
2022-10-03  4:35                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-04 10:50                                         ` Andreas Politz
2022-10-01  7:25                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-01 10:55                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-01 14:01                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-29 16:40                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-01  1:57         ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-01  7:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 22:26 ` Matt Armstrong
2023-10-06 13:14 ` Gerd Möllmann

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