From: Aldric Giacomoni <trevoke@gmail.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, ulm@gentoo.org, ams@gnu.org,
arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru,
"Göktuğ Kayaalp" <self@gkayaalp.com>,
"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 07:51:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHGcNQ8WKkhmU1TGGHvCC_6rZHj+8qyCd7=1xTp=p+CibnK7fA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FB04B302-F593-409A-A6F5-1AE963E1677A@gnu.support>
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*sigh*
It should be a basic human right. That isn't the current reality. It is
currently a privilege. Many good folks are working very hard to transform
this privilege into a basic human right.
Are we done trolling yet?
> Your statements are too general and I do not see how they relate
It's okay don't worry about it. Your point of view is the only correct one,
so don't work too hard in exploring other people's.
--
Aldric.
Sent from a mobile device.
On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 06:46 Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Free software is a privilege, as it is. It requires a lot of knowledge
> >about computing praxis and culture, internet culture, legal stuff, and
> >politics.
>
> How privilege? I don't see how is free software privilege. Not for me. It
> should be basic human right for users to have control of their data, and
> not to let other companies or individuals control my data.
>
> Better said proprietary software is mischievous unfortunate degrading
> event of human history and we are working to the reverse it.
>
> >It’s fundamental and inevitable and unavoidable for free software to
> >interact and cooperate with non-free software, if such a goal is not
> >limited to the use cases of some privileged hackers.
>
> We have fully free software that need not ever interact or cooperate with
> non free. So I don't know where you pull out that anti information. Just
> start with www.gnu.org to find software that never ever need to cooperate
> with proprietary software.
>
>
> >Most software,
> >and
> >most of popular software is closed source.
>
> I did not count to say so. But what is popular it does not matter in GNU
> project, what matters is that we do have fully free software and operating
> systems.
>
> >Most users of software
> >_cannot_ avoid non-free software.
>
> Whoever is informed well and decides so themselves can switch to fully
> free software. People make decisions on their own.
>
> GNU project is everything else but not ivory tower. Otherwise you would
> not be able to discuss here.
>
> What GNU project promotes is free software. GNU never says to its users
> to use exclusively free software and never condemns people for using
> proprietary software.
>
> I thus do not see where is problem.
>
> Your statements are too general and I do not see how they relate.
>
>
>
>
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2021-01-08 17:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
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2021-01-09 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-01-11 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:35 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12 6:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:08 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
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2021-01-09 6:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 19:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-11 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 6:37 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-01-07 18:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 21:07 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 10:14 ` Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Göktuğ Kayaalp
2021-01-08 11:46 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 12:51 ` Aldric Giacomoni [this message]
2021-01-08 16:23 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-08 18:47 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 14:11 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:29 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-08 19:17 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2021-01-09 6:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 14:24 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:19 ` Arthur Miller
2021-10-04 13:46 ` Time to dial back the dialectic? [was: Re: Privileges and practicalities] dick
2021-10-04 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-06 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 7:25 ` Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Jean Louis
2021-01-10 17:18 ` Devin Prater
2021-01-11 15:57 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:40 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 6:40 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:47 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:32 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13 5:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-08 13:53 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Jean Louis
2021-01-08 17:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 19:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 6:06 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-11 4:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:10 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13 5:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 6:37 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 6:31 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-13 5:29 ` Richard Stallman
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2021-01-08 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 18:27 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 6:41 ` Richard Stallman
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2021-01-07 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 20:31 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 20:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 21:00 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 10:24 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-08 11:28 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:35 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 8:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-01-08 11:54 ` Ulrich Mueller
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