From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, ulm@gentoo.org,
ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru,
self@gkayaalp.com, eliz@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el]
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:42:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1ky7xR-0006RE-GA@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <u8s93v1m5@gentoo.org> (message from Ulrich Mueller on Fri, 08 Jan 2021 17:23:46 +0100)
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> > What GNU project promotes is free software. GNU never says to its
> > users to use exclusively free software and never condemns people for
> > using proprietary software.
> Yet it maintains a blacklist of common GNU/Linux distros and labels them
> as "unethical", even if these distros (like Debian and Fedora) have a
> clear policy to exclude anything non-free from their main repositories.
This is a miscommunication. You and Jean are talking about different
things.
Jean is presenting the GNU Project's moral philosophy. We say that
every nonfree program is an injustice, so recommending a nonfree
program for use is unethical. To lead users to run it is unethical.
When we say that a distro is unethical, that simply means that the
distro contains or recommends or leads users to run nonfree software.
Nothing other than that.
It's not a personal criticism of the distro developers. I'm confident
that the Debian developers and the Gentoo developers are honest and
follow their moral codes. We don't mean to criticize them as people.
We try to make this clear in gnu.org/distros. If you see anything
there which is not clear, please write me privately and show me the
text you mean.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
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2021-01-07 8:49 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Jean Louis
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[not found] ` <uy2h5xbhd@gentoo.org>
2021-01-07 11:46 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 19:38 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-07 20:23 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 11:54 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-08 18:23 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:35 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 18:18 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
[not found] ` <X/bNnq5XiOMeKhgu@protected.rcdrun.com>
2021-01-08 6:25 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-08 6:30 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:45 ` frepology.org Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:11 ` frepology.org Jean Louis
2021-01-11 4:47 ` frepology.org Richard Stallman
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[not found] ` <E1kxGCp-0006oD-PA@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <83wnwolu2i.fsf@gnu.org>
2021-01-07 18:18 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 21:07 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 21:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-08 17:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 19:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-09 6:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 5:59 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-11 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:35 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12 6:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:08 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-15 14:46 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-09 6:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 19:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-11 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 6:37 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <23f3f74f-c3d3-ec74-f1da-d0416d026c0d@yandex.ru>
[not found] ` <E1kxGuO-00079C-NR@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <b94804db-7140-d450-6fc2-5afa440a8736@yandex.ru>
[not found] ` <E1kxZru-0007Cl-DD@fencepost.gnu.org>
2021-01-07 18:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 21:07 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 10:14 ` Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Göktuğ Kayaalp
2021-01-08 11:46 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 12:51 ` Aldric Giacomoni
2021-01-08 16:23 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-08 18:47 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:42 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2021-01-11 14:11 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:29 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-08 19:17 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2021-01-09 6:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 14:24 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:19 ` Arthur Miller
2021-10-04 13:46 ` Time to dial back the dialectic? [was: Re: Privileges and practicalities] dick
2021-10-04 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-06 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 7:25 ` Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Jean Louis
2021-01-10 17:18 ` Devin Prater
2021-01-11 15:57 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:40 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 6:40 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:47 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:32 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13 5:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-08 13:53 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Jean Louis
2021-01-08 17:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 19:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 6:06 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-11 4:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:10 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13 5:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 6:37 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 6:31 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-13 5:29 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-15 14:37 ` Arthur Miller
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2021-01-07 20:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 20:47 ` Jean Louis
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[not found] ` <E1kxcV3-0005Rt-7a@fencepost.gnu.org>
2021-01-08 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 11:48 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 13:56 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 18:27 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 6:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 6:07 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-10 6:04 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-10 6:04 ` Richard Stallman
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[not found] ` <83eeiwlsn6.fsf@gnu.org>
2021-01-07 19:38 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 20:31 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 20:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 21:00 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 10:24 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-08 11:28 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:35 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 8:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 6:13 ` Sv: " arthur miller
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