From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, "Göktuğ Kayaalp" <self@gkayaalp.com>,
"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, rms@gnu.org,
arthur.miller@live.com, ams@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el]
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:46:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <FB04B302-F593-409A-A6F5-1AE963E1677A@gnu.support> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zh1jag72.fsf@gkayaalp.com>
>Free software is a privilege, as it is. It requires a lot of knowledge
>about computing praxis and culture, internet culture, legal stuff, and
>politics.
How privilege? I don't see how is free software privilege. Not for me. It should be basic human right for users to have control of their data, and not to let other companies or individuals control my data.
Better said proprietary software is mischievous unfortunate degrading event of human history and we are working to the reverse it.
>It’s fundamental and inevitable and unavoidable for free software to
>interact and cooperate with non-free software, if such a goal is not
>limited to the use cases of some privileged hackers.
We have fully free software that need not ever interact or cooperate with non free. So I don't know where you pull out that anti information. Just start with www.gnu.org to find software that never ever need to cooperate with proprietary software.
>Most software,
>and
>most of popular software is closed source.
I did not count to say so. But what is popular it does not matter in GNU project, what matters is that we do have fully free software and operating systems.
>Most users of software
>_cannot_ avoid non-free software.
Whoever is informed well and decides so themselves can switch to fully free software. People make decisions on their own.
GNU project is everything else but not ivory tower. Otherwise you would not be able to discuss here.
What GNU project promotes is free software. GNU never says to its users to use exclusively free software and never condemns people for using proprietary software.
I thus do not see where is problem.
Your statements are too general and I do not see how they relate.
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2021-01-07 8:49 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Jean Louis
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2021-01-07 11:46 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 19:38 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-07 20:23 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 11:54 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-08 18:23 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:35 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 18:18 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
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2021-01-08 6:25 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-08 6:30 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:45 ` frepology.org Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:11 ` frepology.org Jean Louis
2021-01-11 4:47 ` frepology.org Richard Stallman
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[not found] ` <E1kxGCp-0006oD-PA@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <83wnwolu2i.fsf@gnu.org>
2021-01-07 18:18 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 21:07 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 21:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-08 17:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 19:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-09 6:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 5:59 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-11 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:35 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12 6:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:08 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-15 14:46 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-09 6:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 19:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-11 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 6:37 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
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[not found] ` <E1kxGuO-00079C-NR@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <b94804db-7140-d450-6fc2-5afa440a8736@yandex.ru>
[not found] ` <E1kxZru-0007Cl-DD@fencepost.gnu.org>
2021-01-07 18:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 21:07 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 10:14 ` Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Göktuğ Kayaalp
2021-01-08 11:46 ` Jean Louis [this message]
2021-01-08 12:51 ` Aldric Giacomoni
2021-01-08 16:23 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-08 18:47 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 14:11 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:29 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-08 19:17 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2021-01-09 6:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 14:24 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:19 ` Arthur Miller
2021-10-04 13:46 ` Time to dial back the dialectic? [was: Re: Privileges and practicalities] dick
2021-10-04 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-06 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 7:25 ` Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Jean Louis
2021-01-10 17:18 ` Devin Prater
2021-01-11 15:57 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:40 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 6:40 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:47 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:32 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13 5:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-08 13:53 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Jean Louis
2021-01-08 17:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 19:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 6:06 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-11 4:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12 6:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:10 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13 5:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 6:37 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 6:31 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-13 5:29 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-15 14:37 ` Arthur Miller
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2021-01-07 20:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 20:47 ` Jean Louis
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[not found] ` <E1kxcV3-0005Rt-7a@fencepost.gnu.org>
2021-01-08 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 11:48 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 13:56 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 18:27 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 6:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 6:07 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-10 6:04 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-10 6:04 ` Richard Stallman
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2021-01-07 19:38 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 20:31 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 20:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 21:00 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 10:24 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-08 11:28 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 6:35 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 8:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 8:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 6:13 ` Sv: " arthur miller
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