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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:13:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5fyy1n0th.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DJk4I-0007ID-9K@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:22:02 -0400")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     There are embedded Linux systems that are most definitely not GNU, and
>     for example the system at <URL:http://www.skarnet.org/poweredby.html>
>     runs Linux, but not the GNU system.
>
> Emacs is evidently not included, nor could it run without GNU libc.
>
>     We can't demand correctness from others with regard to GNU/Linux that
>     we are not willing to provide ourselves.
>
> I agree, but I've already explained why this is correct.
>
>     In my opinion that should be the one that does not expose us as
>     hypocrites: that hurts more than anything else could... 
>
> My statements on the matter are sincere, not hypocritical.

Which is the more reason why we should avoid appearing otherwise.

> You have no grounds to accuse me of dishonesty, and I take offense.

I am describing how this discrepancy in accuracy must appear to
others.  You are blaming the messenger.  If you find that description
offensive, it would be sensible to try avoiding evoking it where
possible, and I already gave a wording that would fit better in that
regard.

If you don't trust my judgment on this, feel free to ask anybody whose
words you would rather rely on.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-08  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-02  3:51 `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-02  5:30 ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-02 13:46   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-05  6:25     ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-06  0:00       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-06  0:17         ` David Kastrup
2005-04-06 23:01           ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-06 23:22             ` David Kastrup
2005-04-07  8:44               ` Kim F. Storm
2005-04-07  9:21                 ` Han Boetes
2005-04-07  9:29                 ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-08  3:22                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-07  9:30                 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-08  3:22               ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-08  8:13                 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-04-06  2:59         ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-07  0:45           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-08  1:50             ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-08  1:59               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-08  2:13                 ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-08 15:14                   ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-08  2:22                 ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-08 14:32               ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-08 16:05                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-08 21:54                   ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-09  0:28                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-09  4:06                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-09  5:22                       ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-09  7:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-09 11:04                           ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-09 15:37                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-09 22:21                               ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-10  1:54                         ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-10  1:54                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-10  4:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-10 13:18                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-10 14:37                             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-10 15:29                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-10 21:51                               ` Nick Roberts
2005-04-10 23:30                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-13  5:02                                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-13 10:21                                   ` David Kastrup
2005-04-11  1:56                             ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-12  1:04                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-12  1:28                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-12 17:25                                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-13  1:24                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-13  4:58                                     ` Jan D.
2005-04-13  5:28                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-14  2:16                                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-14  4:06                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-14  7:40                                           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-04-15  2:04                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-15  8:23                                               ` Miles Bader
2005-04-15  8:47                                                 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-04-15  8:47                                               ` Kim F. Storm
2005-04-15  9:07                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-16  1:06                                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-14 19:03                                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-15  2:11                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-13  5:21                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-12  2:12                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-12  2:47                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-12 17:23                                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-13  0:01                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-12 23:31                                     ` David Kastrup
2005-04-13  1:49                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-13  2:17                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-13 18:31                                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-10 14:27                         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-11  1:56                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-06  3:02       ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-06  8:22         ` David Kastrup

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