* Problem with Gnus @ 2004-10-20 15:25 Kim F. Storm 2004-10-20 16:42 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kim F. Storm @ 2004-10-20 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw) Updated emacs from CVS today. When I do M-x gnus, it now asks me Convert gnus from version '5.11' to '5.11' (n/y/?) Q1: Is this to be expected? Both gnus-version and gnus-newsrc-file-version are "Gnus v5.11". Q2: What about legacy-gnus-agent.el ? Looking at the code in gnus-start.el, it seems to expect a file named legacy-gnus-agent.el (also according to ChangeLog). Anybody else having seen this? -- Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-10-20 15:25 Problem with Gnus Kim F. Storm @ 2004-10-20 16:42 ` Reiner Steib 2004-10-20 22:24 ` Kevin Greiner 2004-10-21 21:34 ` Jason Rumney 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2004-10-20 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: emacs-devel, Kevin Greiner [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1523 bytes --] On Wed, Oct 20 2004, Kim F. Storm wrote: [ Changing the order of the questions...] > Q2: What about legacy-gnus-agent.el ? > > Looking at the code in gnus-start.el, it seems to expect > a file named legacy-gnus-agent.el (also according to ChangeLog). > > Anybody else having seen this? Yes. After adding `legacy-gnus-agent.el' (from the current Gnus trunk; see attachment) to emacs/lisp/gnus, it worked for me. Kevin has synched some agent-related bugfixes from the trunk to the v5-10 branch. It seems he forgot to install `legacy-gnus-agent.el' in the v5-10 branch. In order to minimize the inconvenience, I think it's best if I "cvs add legacy-gnus-agent.el" in Emacs soon (instead of fixing it in Gnus/v5-10 and waiting for the semi-automatic syncing). I have to leave now, but I can do it in a couple of hours unless someone has a better suggestion. > When I do M-x gnus, it now asks me > > Convert gnus from version '5.11' to '5.11' (n/y/?) > > Q1: Is this to be expected? > > Both gnus-version and gnus-newsrc-file-version are "Gnus v5.11". Kevin, could you check for which versions a migration in `gnus-convert-old-newsrc' is necessary for users of Gnus v5.11? (This version is the same as in the v5-10 branch; (gnus-continuum-version) gives 5.11 whereas No Gnus has 5.110003.) A problem might be that the version numbers are not really one-dimensional anymore in the sense of features. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ [-- Attachment #2: legacy-gnus-agent.el --] [-- Type: application/emacs-lisp, Size: 10863 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 142 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-10-20 16:42 ` Reiner Steib @ 2004-10-20 22:24 ` Kevin Greiner 2004-10-21 21:34 ` Jason Rumney 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Kevin Greiner @ 2004-10-20 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw) Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: > On Wed, Oct 20 2004, Kim F. Storm wrote: > > [ Changing the order of the questions...] >> Q2: What about legacy-gnus-agent.el ? >> >> Looking at the code in gnus-start.el, it seems to expect >> a file named legacy-gnus-agent.el (also according to ChangeLog). >> >> Anybody else having seen this? > > Yes. After adding `legacy-gnus-agent.el' (from the current Gnus > trunk; see attachment) to emacs/lisp/gnus, it worked for me. > > Kevin has synched some agent-related bugfixes from the trunk to the > v5-10 branch. It seems he forgot to install `legacy-gnus-agent.el' in > the v5-10 branch. > > In order to minimize the inconvenience, I think it's best if I "cvs > add legacy-gnus-agent.el" in Emacs soon (instead of fixing it in > Gnus/v5-10 and waiting for the semi-automatic syncing). I have to > leave now, but I can do it in a couple of hours unless someone has a > better suggestion. I've created the v5-10 branch for legacy-gnus-agent.el. It's identical to version that you added so all should be well. >> When I do M-x gnus, it now asks me >> >> Convert gnus from version '5.11' to '5.11' (n/y/?) >> >> Q1: Is this to be expected? >> >> Both gnus-version and gnus-newsrc-file-version are "Gnus v5.11". > > Kevin, could you check for which versions a migration in > `gnus-convert-old-newsrc' is necessary for users of Gnus v5.11? (This > version is the same as in the v5-10 branch; (gnus-continuum-version) > gives 5.11 whereas No Gnus has 5.110003.) A problem might be that the > version numbers are not really one-dimensional anymore in the sense of > features. Strange. I'll look into it tonight. Kevin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-10-20 16:42 ` Reiner Steib 2004-10-20 22:24 ` Kevin Greiner @ 2004-10-21 21:34 ` Jason Rumney 2004-10-22 16:02 ` Kevin Greiner 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Jason Rumney @ 2004-10-21 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: emacs-devel, Kevin Greiner, Kim F. Storm >Kevin has synched some agent-related bugfixes from the trunk to the >v5-10 branch. It seems he forgot to install `legacy-gnus-agent.el' in >the v5-10 branch. > > > It seems to me he synched too much, since there is code there now to upgrade the gnus files to a future version. But Kevin will know what he intended. >In order to minimize the inconvenience, I think it's best if I "cvs >add legacy-gnus-agent.el" in Emacs soon (instead of fixing it in >Gnus/v5-10 and waiting for the semi-automatic syncing). I have to >leave now, but I can do it in a couple of hours unless someone has a >better suggestion. > > Is that really a sensible thing to do? Now people will have their gnus files upgraded to No Gnus 0.2 even though they are using 5.11. Will this cause problems? Is there a way to undo this if it does? I'd prefer to hear from Kevin about what he really intended before we do anything that might mess things up even more. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-10-21 21:34 ` Jason Rumney @ 2004-10-22 16:02 ` Kevin Greiner 2004-10-22 17:04 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kevin Greiner @ 2004-10-22 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Kevin Greiner, emacs-devel, Reiner Steib, Kim F. Storm Jason Rumney wrote: > >> Kevin has synched some agent-related bugfixes from the trunk to the >> v5-10 branch. It seems he forgot to install `legacy-gnus-agent.el' in >> the v5-10 branch. >> >> >> > It seems to me he synched too much, since there is code there now to > upgrade the gnus files to a future version. But Kevin will know what > he intended. > >> In order to minimize the inconvenience, I think it's best if I "cvs >> add legacy-gnus-agent.el" in Emacs soon (instead of fixing it in >> Gnus/v5-10 and waiting for the semi-automatic syncing). I have to >> leave now, but I can do it in a couple of hours unless someone has a >> better suggestion. >> >> > Is that really a sensible thing to do? Now people will have their gnus > files upgraded to No Gnus 0.2 even though they are using 5.11. Will > this cause problems? Is there a way to undo this if it does? I'd > prefer to hear from Kevin about what he really intended before we do > anything that might mess things up even more. > > > . > Hopefully, yesterday's check-in has resolved all of this. The upgrade functions have been re-assigned to v5.11 since that is where they are needed. Kevin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-10-22 16:02 ` Kevin Greiner @ 2004-10-22 17:04 ` Reiner Steib 2004-10-23 8:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2004-10-22 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, Kevin Greiner, emacs-devel, Kim F. Storm, Jason Rumney On Fri, Oct 22 2004, Kevin Greiner wrote: > Jason Rumney wrote: [...] >>> In order to minimize the inconvenience, I think it's best if I "cvs >>> add legacy-gnus-agent.el" in Emacs soon (instead of fixing it in >>> Gnus/v5-10 and waiting for the semi-automatic syncing). I have to >>> leave now, but I can do it in a couple of hours unless someone has a >>> better suggestion. >> Is that really a sensible thing to do? (The file `legacy-gnus-agent.el' has been added via Miles' arch-sync before your message, because Kevin has committed it in the v5-10 branch of Gnus.) >> Now people will have their gnus files upgraded to No Gnus 0.2 even >> though they are using 5.11. Will this cause problems? Is there a >> way to undo this if it does? There might be a problem if someone would move from Gnus 5.11 (Emacs CVS) to an early version of No Gnus. >> I'd prefer to hear from Kevin about what he really intended before >> we do anything that might mess things up even more. [...] > Hopefully, yesterday's check-in has resolved all of this. Gnus works for me, but I don't use the agent. > The upgrade functions have been re-assigned to v5.11 since that is > where they are needed. Hm, as the new agent code is in the v5-10 branch too and we intend to release 5.10.7 from this branch some day, shouldn't the upgrade functions be assigned to 5.10.7 *and* we should bump the version in the v5-10 branch to 5.10.7 [1] now? Else people using the v5-10 branch outside of CVS-Emacs won't get the proper upgrade functions (though I doubt that many people use this branch). Lars, WDYT? Bye, Reiner. [1] IIRC, usually the version number is increased (in CVS) from 5.10.x to 5.10.x+1 after the release of 5.10.x. After 5.10.6 this didn't happen because it jumped to "No Gnus v0.1". -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-10-22 17:04 ` Reiner Steib @ 2004-10-23 8:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2004-10-23 13:12 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2004-10-23 8:43 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Kim F. Storm, Kevin Greiner, emacs-devel, Jason Rumney Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: > Hm, as the new agent code is in the v5-10 branch too and we intend to > release 5.10.7 from this branch some day, shouldn't the upgrade > functions be assigned to 5.10.7 *and* we should bump the version in > the v5-10 branch to 5.10.7 [1] now? Else people using the v5-10 > branch outside of CVS-Emacs won't get the proper upgrade functions > (though I doubt that many people use this branch). > > Lars, WDYT? Hm... why is the new agent code in 5.10? There really shouldn't be anything there except bug fixes, right? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-10-23 8:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2004-10-23 13:12 ` Reiner Steib 2004-10-24 16:17 ` Kevin Greiner 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2004-10-23 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Kevin Greiner, emacs-devel On Sat, Oct 23 2004, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: > >> Hm, as the new agent code is in the v5-10 branch too and we intend to >> release 5.10.7 from this branch some day, shouldn't the upgrade >> functions be assigned to 5.10.7 *and* we should bump the version in >> the v5-10 branch to 5.10.7 [1] now? Else people using the v5-10 >> branch outside of CVS-Emacs won't get the proper upgrade functions >> (though I doubt that many people use this branch). >> >> Lars, WDYT? > > Hm... why is the new agent code in 5.10? There really shouldn't be > anything there except bug fixes, right? Kevin's changes in 5.10 should fix several bugs in the agent code of 5.10.6. (I don't know the details since I don't use the agent.) Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-10-23 13:12 ` Reiner Steib @ 2004-10-24 16:17 ` Kevin Greiner 2004-11-14 19:49 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kevin Greiner @ 2004-10-24 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw) Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: > On Sat, Oct 23 2004, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: >> >>> Hm, as the new agent code is in the v5-10 branch too and we intend to >>> release 5.10.7 from this branch some day, shouldn't the upgrade >>> functions be assigned to 5.10.7 *and* we should bump the version in >>> the v5-10 branch to 5.10.7 [1] now? Else people using the v5-10 >>> branch outside of CVS-Emacs won't get the proper upgrade functions >>> (though I doubt that many people use this branch). >>> >>> Lars, WDYT? >> >> Hm... why is the new agent code in 5.10? There really shouldn't be >> anything there except bug fixes, right? > > Kevin's changes in 5.10 should fix several bugs in the agent code of > 5.10.6. (I don't know the details since I don't use the agent.) > > Bye, Reiner. There has only been one truely new agent feature added to No Gnus. That feature was NOT added to the v5-10 branch. Of the code that was checked in, the only thing that was not clearly an agent bug fix was the gnus version upgrade changes. Kevin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-10-24 16:17 ` Kevin Greiner @ 2004-11-14 19:49 ` Reiner Steib 2004-11-14 19:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2004-11-14 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: emacs-devel On Sun, Oct 24 2004, Kevin Greiner wrote: > Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: >> On Sat, Oct 23 2004, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: >>> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: >>> >>>> Hm, as the new agent code is in the v5-10 branch too and we intend to >>>> release 5.10.7 from this branch some day, shouldn't the upgrade >>>> functions be assigned to 5.10.7 *and* we should bump the version in >>>> the v5-10 branch to 5.10.7 [1] now? Else people using the v5-10 >>>> branch outside of CVS-Emacs won't get the proper upgrade functions >>>> (though I doubt that many people use this branch). (In the meantime, I heard of some people using the v5-10 branch.) >>>> Lars, WDYT? >>> >>> Hm... why is the new agent code in 5.10? There really shouldn't be >>> anything there except bug fixes, right? >> >> Kevin's changes in 5.10 should fix several bugs in the agent code of >> 5.10.6. (I don't know the details since I don't use the agent.) [...] > There has only been one truely new agent feature added to No Gnus. > That feature was NOT added to the v5-10 branch. Of the code that was > checked in, the only thing that was not clearly an agent bug fix was > the gnus version upgrade changes. Lars, is it okay to bump the version in v5-10 branch to 5.10.7 and assign the agent upgrade functions to 5.10.7? Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-11-14 19:49 ` Reiner Steib @ 2004-11-14 19:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2004-11-14 21:06 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2004-11-14 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw) Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: > Lars, is it okay to bump the version in v5-10 branch to 5.10.7 and > assign the agent upgrade functions to 5.10.7? Sounds like a good idea. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with Gnus 2004-11-14 19:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2004-11-14 21:06 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2004-11-14 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Miles Bader On Sun, Nov 14 2004, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: > >> Lars, is it okay to bump the version in v5-10 branch to 5.10.7 and >> assign the agent upgrade functions to 5.10.7? > > Sounds like a good idea. Done. Miles, you don't need to sync those changes. I have changed `gnus-start.el' in Emacs and Gnus trunk, too. (Bumping `gnus-version' should of course only apply to v5-10.) Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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