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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ELPA security
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 12:41:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvvc546b4i.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2obaxm42g.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Sun, 23 Jun 2013 07:58:31 -0400")

TZ> etc/elpa/ARCHIVE-NAME can contain the actual armored GPG signature but
TZ> it can also have more metadata about the archive.  So the format could
TZ> be:

TZ> url=ARCHIVE-URL
TZ> other-metadata=whatever
TZ> then-a-new-line=ends metadata

TZ> SIGNATURE

TZ> and if SIGNATURE is missing, the archive is not signed.

Hmm... I'm not sure I understand the issues here.  IIUC Debian
uses a GPG keyring.  What's the difference?Also, you talk about the
signature here, whereas I think "an archive has a key, each package has
a signature".

> For now I'm using the old format.  Archives are signed by default as
> requested.  I've rebased the patch against the changes to package.el.

I think the list of signed/unsigned archives should be managed
dynamically/automatically: if a signature is missing, ask the user if
she thinks it's normal, and if so, place the archive into a list of
"unsigned archives", so the question is not repeated.  But every time we
access the archive, we still try to get the a signature.  If we do find
a signature, then remove the archive from the "unsigned archives" list.

> Finally, for easier testing I think we should put a fake archive with 1
> package in test/elpa/packages.

Sure.

> I didn't do it because Stefan mentioned Daniel Hackney's changes
> included some testing code and I didn't want to confuse matters.

You could install Daniel's tests before adding your own.

TZ> Using EPG functions, however, I could not figure out how to verify with
TZ> an external public GPG key.  I don't see that option with any of the
TZ> context functions.  Perhaps someone knows?  Without that option, the
TZ> user has to explicitly load the maintainer's public GPG key, which is
TZ> very impractical around package.el.
> I need to know the above to make the patch usable, so I won't commit for
> now.

I don't understand the question, sadly.

> Also the signature has to be named .gpgsig because the extension .gpg
> (the default) makes EPA/EPG attempt to decrypt it.

".gpgsig" is fine, as is ".sig".  Are you talking about the packages's
signatures, or about some ~/.emacs.d/elpa/archive/key.gpgsig?


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-23 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-09 14:41 ELPA security George Kadianakis
2012-12-09 21:00 ` Nic Ferrier
2012-12-21 14:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-21 22:12   ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22  5:07   ` Bastien
2012-12-22  6:17     ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22 12:34       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-22 13:03         ` Bastien
2012-12-22 13:24           ` Bastien
2012-12-22 19:37             ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience (was: ELPA security) Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-24 12:53               ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience Nic Ferrier
2012-12-24 12:55                 ` Bastien
2012-12-24 13:38                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-24 13:39                   ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-24 16:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-24 17:46                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-25  1:03                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-26 14:22                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-27  3:06                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-27  8:56                         ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 11:18                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 12:32                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 13:50                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 16:47                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 21:41                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-29  6:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-31 11:22                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-03 16:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-04 16:05                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-04 18:11                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-04 19:06                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-05  3:25                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-06 19:20                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  2:03                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07 14:47                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08  1:44                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 15:15                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 17:53                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 18:46                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 21:20                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-09  2:37                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08  2:20                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 14:05                                         ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-04 22:21                           ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 20:06               ` Re:package.el + DVCS for security and convenience (was: ELPA security) Phil Hagelberg
2012-12-31 22:50                 ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-22 16:20   ` ELPA security Stefan Monnier
2012-12-26 17:32     ` Paul Nathan
2012-12-31 11:50       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 12:34         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 13:39         ` Package signing infrastructure suggestion (was Re: ELPA security) Nic Ferrier
2012-12-31 22:32           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 23:01             ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 19:48         ` ELPA security Tom Tromey
2012-12-31 19:57           ` Drew Adams
2012-12-31 22:19             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 22:15           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-05 16:46   ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-06 19:12     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  5:32       ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  5:47         ` Jambunathan K
2013-01-07  5:53           ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  6:09             ` Jambunathan K
2013-01-07  6:20               ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  7:12               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07  7:18               ` chad
2013-01-07 14:34               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  6:57           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07 14:35           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07 15:01         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08  3:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 14:47             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 16:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 17:30                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 20:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 21:30                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 22:46                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 23:30                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-03-12 18:29                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 17:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 17:59                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-08 18:37                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 20:59                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-16 11:18                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-16 23:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-17  1:56                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-17  7:23                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-17 15:54                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-28 15:34                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-17 14:34                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-17  7:20                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-19  5:02                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-19 12:38                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-23 11:58                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-23 16:41                               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-06-28 15:47                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-28 16:28                                   ` Nic Ferrier
2013-06-28 22:49                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-24  3:44                               ` Daiki Ueno
2013-06-28 15:32                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-28 16:15                                   ` Daiki Ueno

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