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From: Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Package signing infrastructure suggestion (was Re: ELPA security)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:39:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pq1q8hnn.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87623i5tld.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 31 Dec 2012 06:50:06 -0500")

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> Hmm.  So maybe there can be signed checkpoint commits to a global
> ChangeLog file that validate all the commits up to that commit?  Then
> package.el would pull that commit from the ELPA DVCS repository and
> ignore all later, unconfirmed commits?  That seems very workable for the
> maintainers and for package.el.

...

> I think the proposal above minimizes new infrastructure.  It moves the
> verification and signing burden to the ELPA (e.g. the GNU ELPA)
> maintainers, which I think is the right place.  The new DVCS repo
> pointers in package.el can coexist with the current HTTP pointers for a
> nice gradual transition.
>
> If this sounds acceptable I will start on a POC.

It sounds like you are mixing up a lot of different things. 

A package is an artifact from a build system and that separation between
packages and repositories is a good thing.

A better solution is to have a standard location for signed packages,
perhaps a derivable HTTP or file URL.

A single package could be used to collect everyone's keys.

When a new maintainer is added the key package would have to be
updated.

The key package could be constructed automatically from gpg key stores
or individual uploads of keys. Something that assures we know who
someone is.

The key package should have a unique name derived from the repository so
other repositories can support the same system if they wish to.

It's quite important, I think, that the maintenance of the key package
is separate from the signed packages themselves.



Nic Ferrier
Elnode, Marmalade, TeamChat.net



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-31 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-09 14:41 ELPA security George Kadianakis
2012-12-09 21:00 ` Nic Ferrier
2012-12-21 14:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-21 22:12   ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22  5:07   ` Bastien
2012-12-22  6:17     ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22 12:34       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-22 13:03         ` Bastien
2012-12-22 13:24           ` Bastien
2012-12-22 19:37             ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience (was: ELPA security) Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-24 12:53               ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience Nic Ferrier
2012-12-24 12:55                 ` Bastien
2012-12-24 13:38                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-24 13:39                   ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-24 16:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-24 17:46                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-25  1:03                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-26 14:22                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-27  3:06                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-27  8:56                         ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 11:18                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 12:32                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 13:50                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 16:47                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 21:41                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-29  6:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-31 11:22                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-03 16:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-04 16:05                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-04 18:11                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-04 19:06                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-05  3:25                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-06 19:20                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  2:03                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07 14:47                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08  1:44                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 15:15                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 17:53                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 18:46                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 21:20                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-09  2:37                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08  2:20                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 14:05                                         ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-04 22:21                           ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 20:06               ` Re:package.el + DVCS for security and convenience (was: ELPA security) Phil Hagelberg
2012-12-31 22:50                 ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-22 16:20   ` ELPA security Stefan Monnier
2012-12-26 17:32     ` Paul Nathan
2012-12-31 11:50       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 12:34         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 13:39         ` Nic Ferrier [this message]
2012-12-31 22:32           ` Package signing infrastructure suggestion (was Re: ELPA security) Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 23:01             ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 19:48         ` ELPA security Tom Tromey
2012-12-31 19:57           ` Drew Adams
2012-12-31 22:19             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 22:15           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-05 16:46   ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-06 19:12     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  5:32       ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  5:47         ` Jambunathan K
2013-01-07  5:53           ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  6:09             ` Jambunathan K
2013-01-07  6:20               ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  7:12               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07  7:18               ` chad
2013-01-07 14:34               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  6:57           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07 14:35           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07 15:01         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08  3:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 14:47             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 16:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 17:30                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 20:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 21:30                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 22:46                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 23:30                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-03-12 18:29                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 17:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 17:59                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-08 18:37                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 20:59                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-16 11:18                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-16 23:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-17  1:56                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-17  7:23                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-17 15:54                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-28 15:34                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-17 14:34                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-17  7:20                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-19  5:02                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-19 12:38                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-23 11:58                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-23 16:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-28 15:47                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-28 16:28                                   ` Nic Ferrier
2013-06-28 22:49                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-24  3:44                               ` Daiki Ueno
2013-06-28 15:32                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-28 16:15                                   ` Daiki Ueno

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