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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: package.el + DVCS for security and convenience
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:20:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmwwj4c30.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87obgza7d7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:53:56 +0900")

>> Stefan has confirmed (I believe) the GNU ELPA maintainers will use a
>> single "GNU ELPA" key to sign package releases.
> Have you given up on having every commit signed?

I haven't even tried to sign a single Bzr commit.  Hell, I use GPG
rarely enough, that I typically end up having to create a new key
because I can't remember the password I used for the last one.

And I worry about what happens if/when we restructure the repository
(currently we have a single Bzr branch with all packages in it (except
for Org), but we'll probably want to move to a setup where more packages
have their own branches, also we may move from Bzr to something else).

And I'm not sure what would be the gain with such signatures: I'm
shocked to hear people would trust me, since I don't trust myself (and
some (former?) friends of mine know I'm not trustworthy).
[ For the record, I work in the context of certified programming, where
you don't want to trust people at all, and instead expect them to give
you a formal proof that their code is safe.  ]

> You are highly skilled at missing the point.
Let's try to stay clear of such ad-hominem, please.


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-08 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-09 14:41 ELPA security George Kadianakis
2012-12-09 21:00 ` Nic Ferrier
2012-12-21 14:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-21 22:12   ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22  5:07   ` Bastien
2012-12-22  6:17     ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22 12:34       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-22 13:03         ` Bastien
2012-12-22 13:24           ` Bastien
2012-12-22 19:37             ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience (was: ELPA security) Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-24 12:53               ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience Nic Ferrier
2012-12-24 12:55                 ` Bastien
2012-12-24 13:38                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-24 13:39                   ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-24 16:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-24 17:46                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-25  1:03                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-26 14:22                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-27  3:06                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-27  8:56                         ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 11:18                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 12:32                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 13:50                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 16:47                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 21:41                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-29  6:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-31 11:22                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-03 16:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-04 16:05                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-04 18:11                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-04 19:06                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-05  3:25                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-06 19:20                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  2:03                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07 14:47                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08  1:44                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 15:15                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 17:53                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 18:46                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 21:20                                             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-01-09  2:37                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08  2:20                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 14:05                                         ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-04 22:21                           ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 20:06               ` Re:package.el + DVCS for security and convenience (was: ELPA security) Phil Hagelberg
2012-12-31 22:50                 ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-22 16:20   ` ELPA security Stefan Monnier
2012-12-26 17:32     ` Paul Nathan
2012-12-31 11:50       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 12:34         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 13:39         ` Package signing infrastructure suggestion (was Re: ELPA security) Nic Ferrier
2012-12-31 22:32           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 23:01             ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 19:48         ` ELPA security Tom Tromey
2012-12-31 19:57           ` Drew Adams
2012-12-31 22:19             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 22:15           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-05 16:46   ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-06 19:12     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  5:32       ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  5:47         ` Jambunathan K
2013-01-07  5:53           ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  6:09             ` Jambunathan K
2013-01-07  6:20               ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  7:12               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07  7:18               ` chad
2013-01-07 14:34               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  6:57           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07 14:35           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07 15:01         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08  3:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 14:47             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 16:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 17:30                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 20:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 21:30                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 22:46                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 23:30                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-03-12 18:29                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 17:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 17:59                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-08 18:37                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 20:59                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-16 11:18                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-16 23:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-17  1:56                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-17  7:23                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-17 15:54                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-28 15:34                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-17 14:34                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-17  7:20                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-19  5:02                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-19 12:38                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-23 11:58                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-23 16:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-28 15:47                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-28 16:28                                   ` Nic Ferrier
2013-06-28 22:49                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-24  3:44                               ` Daiki Ueno
2013-06-28 15:32                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-28 16:15                                   ` Daiki Ueno

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