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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: package.el + DVCS for security and convenience (was: ELPA security)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:37:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sj6xg9p2.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87d2y2p6d7.fsf@bzg.ath.cx

I propose to require signatures for ELPA packages and make package.el
aware of signatures:

http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/beta/en/user-guide/gpg_signatures.html

(the same idea for Git: http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Basics-Tagging)

The key is to make package.el talk to a repository, not to a web site.

Then, package.el can verify the history of the package as a series of
revisions and verify their signatures.  That would require much better
integration with Bazaar and Git for package.el, but I actually think
that's a good thing and would give users convenient tools like seeing
the history of a package with all the commits.

Maybe `vc-dir' already has code to do this, so package.el can simply
ride on top of it.

This has several benefits:

- doesn't introduce new infrastructure or ELPA/Emacs packages

- is entirely optional to package.el, so repositories and individual
  packages within them can choose to use this mechanism

- does not depend on a central authority like SSL

- if the tools to verify the GPG signature are not available, we can
  fall back to warning the user instead of failing altogether

Ted




  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-22 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-09 14:41 ELPA security George Kadianakis
2012-12-09 21:00 ` Nic Ferrier
2012-12-21 14:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-21 22:12   ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22  5:07   ` Bastien
2012-12-22  6:17     ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22 12:34       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-22 13:03         ` Bastien
2012-12-22 13:24           ` Bastien
2012-12-22 19:37             ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2012-12-24 12:53               ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience Nic Ferrier
2012-12-24 12:55                 ` Bastien
2012-12-24 13:38                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-24 13:39                   ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-24 16:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-24 17:46                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-25  1:03                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-26 14:22                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-27  3:06                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-27  8:56                         ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 11:18                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 12:32                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 13:50                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 16:47                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 21:41                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-29  6:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-31 11:22                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-03 16:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-04 16:05                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-04 18:11                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-04 19:06                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-05  3:25                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-06 19:20                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  2:03                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07 14:47                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08  1:44                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 15:15                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 17:53                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 18:46                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 21:20                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-09  2:37                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08  2:20                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 14:05                                         ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-04 22:21                           ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 20:06               ` Re:package.el + DVCS for security and convenience (was: ELPA security) Phil Hagelberg
2012-12-31 22:50                 ` package.el + DVCS for security and convenience Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-22 16:20   ` ELPA security Stefan Monnier
2012-12-26 17:32     ` Paul Nathan
2012-12-31 11:50       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 12:34         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-31 13:39         ` Package signing infrastructure suggestion (was Re: ELPA security) Nic Ferrier
2012-12-31 22:32           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 23:01             ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-31 19:48         ` ELPA security Tom Tromey
2012-12-31 19:57           ` Drew Adams
2012-12-31 22:19             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-31 22:15           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-05 16:46   ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-06 19:12     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  5:32       ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  5:47         ` Jambunathan K
2013-01-07  5:53           ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  6:09             ` Jambunathan K
2013-01-07  6:20               ` Paul Nathan
2013-01-07  7:12               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07  7:18               ` chad
2013-01-07 14:34               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07  6:57           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-07 14:35           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-07 15:01         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08  3:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 14:47             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 16:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 17:30                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 20:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 21:30                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 22:46                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 23:30                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-03-12 18:29                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 17:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 17:59                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-08 18:37                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-01-08 20:59                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-16 11:18                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-16 23:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-17  1:56                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-17  7:23                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-17 15:54                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-28 15:34                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-17 14:34                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-17  7:20                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-19  5:02                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-19 12:38                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-23 11:58                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-23 16:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-28 15:47                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-28 16:28                                   ` Nic Ferrier
2013-06-28 22:49                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-24  3:44                               ` Daiki Ueno
2013-06-28 15:32                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-28 16:15                                   ` Daiki Ueno

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