From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
"Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 15:41:14 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0a651f9-1896-46a8-9d19-11755c249c75@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvlfmhhpd3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
> > I don't think I will ever manage to remember any of
> > the keybindings for the outline-(show|hide)-… functions,
>
> For this reason I implemented `reveal-mode` ;-)
1. FWIW, both Org Mode and Outline Mode offer
all anyone needs to know about showing/hiding,
navigating, etc. - in the menu-bar menus.
I can't understand people lamenting an ability
to remember key bindings. Especially veteran
users - they should know how to ask Emacs.
If you're in a mode you don't understand well,
use `C-h m' or `C-h b'. If such help isn't
good enough then we should improve it.
And any veteran Emacs user should expect that
an important or longstanding major mode probably
also has one or more menu-bar menus, which can
help with key bindings. And anyone who discovers
that some mode has a poor menu (or none) can file
a bug report to improve (or create) it.
2. It sounds like trivially adding TAB as a key
for cycling among items in Outline mode would,
regardless of what mode is used for NEWS, be a
good idea. And such a lame argument shouldn't
be put forward as a reason to switch to Org mode
for NEWS. (I'm not saying anything here about
which mode should be used for NEWS.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-26 22:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-26 15:43 Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 16:13 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-26 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 19:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 20:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 22:53 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-26 16:16 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-26 17:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-26 19:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 21:54 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-26 22:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 22:41 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-04-27 7:20 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 15:23 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27 15:31 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-27 7:39 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 14:27 ` Reveal-mode (was: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode) Stefan Monnier
2020-04-27 10:23 ` Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-27 11:45 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 20:30 ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-27 21:24 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27 23:05 ` John Yates
2020-04-28 2:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24 6:23 ` Bastien
2020-04-28 15:12 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-28 16:41 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-28 17:56 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-28 19:22 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-28 23:35 ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-29 10:53 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-29 11:37 ` Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core (was: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-29 12:30 ` Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-04 10:45 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-04 14:50 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-04 16:14 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-06 14:54 ` [PATCH] Make RET and C-j obey `electric-indent-mode' in org-mode (was: Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 10:48 ` [PATCH] Make RET and C-j obey `electric-indent-mode' in org-mode Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-07 12:03 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 12:21 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-07 16:45 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 16:50 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 19:38 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-24 6:25 ` Bastien
2020-05-07 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 15:33 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-24 6:23 ` Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Bastien
2020-05-24 6:18 ` Bastien
2020-04-27 12:14 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-24 6:13 ` Bastien
2020-04-26 18:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-24 6:15 ` Bastien
2020-04-27 2:23 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-27 6:37 ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-27 7:12 ` tomas
2020-04-28 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-28 9:40 ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-29 3:30 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24 6:16 ` Bastien
2020-04-27 9:59 ` Po Lu
2020-04-27 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-27 14:49 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29 3:27 ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29 3:52 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29 13:54 ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29 14:08 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29 14:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-29 14:52 ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29 14:03 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-30 10:25 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-07 21:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-08 17:50 ` Yuri Khan
2020-05-08 17:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-24 6:35 ` Bastien
2020-04-29 17:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-29 19:19 ` Howard Melman
2020-04-30 2:24 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24 6:04 ` Bastien
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