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From: Howard Melman <hmelman@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:27:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lyd07reztg.fsf@Lumet.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4D145B75-0C23-4371-A388-747BB9E42327@traduction-libre.org

Jean-Christophe Helary
<jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org> writes:

>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 23:36, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> So, from what I gather here, we could satisfy everyone by using for the
>> file format a very small subset of org-mode (basically the subset
>> that is common with outline-mode), and for the major-mode itself
>> a variant of org-mode that loads faster (e.g. a stripped down version
>> of org-mode, or an org-mode that's been profiled&tweaked to load
>> faster).
>
> My reading is that org-mode users would just appreciate if
> outline-mode had "non-nonsense" navigation similar to org-mode.

FWIW, I've had this in my init for several years now. I'm
not an org-mode user, though I've tried a few times. I can
never remember the outline-mode keybindings and found  that
org-mode's C-TAB and S-TAB alone were huge wins and just
worked in outline-minor-mode.  This my solution to code
folding and I use it in other modes like markdown.  Adding
org-cycle and org-global-cycle to outline mode, or some
equivalent I think would be a huge usability win.

;; I can never remember the outline keybindings,
;; grabbing C-tab and S-Tab from org-mode is genius
;; Also make the outline move commands memorable (borrowing from org)
(with-eval-after-load "outline"
  (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "C-<tab>") 'org-cycle)
  (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "S-<tab>") 'org-global-cycle)
  (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "M-<left>") 'outline-demote)
  (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "M-<right>") 'outline-promote)
  (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "M-<up>") 'outline-move-subtree-up)
  (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "M-<down>") 'outline-move-subtree-down)
)


-- 

Howard




  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-29  3:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-26 15:43 Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 16:13 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-26 18:36   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 19:52     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 20:54       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 22:53         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-26 16:16 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-26 17:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-26 19:29   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 21:54   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-26 22:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 22:41       ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27  7:20         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 15:23           ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27 15:31             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-27  7:39       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 14:27         ` Reveal-mode (was: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode) Stefan Monnier
2020-04-27 10:23     ` Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-27 11:45       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 20:30         ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-27 21:24           ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27 23:05           ` John Yates
2020-04-28  2:51           ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24  6:23             ` Bastien
2020-04-28 15:12           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-28 16:41             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-28 17:56               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-28 19:22                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-28 23:35             ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-29 10:53               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-29 11:37                 ` Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core (was: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-29 12:30                   ` Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-04 10:45                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-04 14:50                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-04 16:14                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-06 14:54                           ` [PATCH] Make RET and C-j obey `electric-indent-mode' in org-mode (was: Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 10:48                             ` [PATCH] Make RET and C-j obey `electric-indent-mode' in org-mode Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-07 12:03                               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 12:21                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-07 16:45                                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 16:50                                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 19:38                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-24  6:25                                         ` Bastien
2020-05-07 13:53                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 15:33                               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-24  6:23             ` Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Bastien
2020-05-24  6:18           ` Bastien
2020-04-27 12:14       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-24  6:13   ` Bastien
2020-04-26 18:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-24  6:15   ` Bastien
2020-04-27  2:23 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-27  6:37   ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-27  7:12     ` tomas
2020-04-28  2:49     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-28  9:40       ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-29  3:30         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24  6:16     ` Bastien
2020-04-27  9:59 ` Po Lu
2020-04-27 14:36   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-27 14:49     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  3:27       ` Howard Melman [this message]
2020-04-29  3:52         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29 13:54           ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29 14:08             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29 14:17             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-29 14:52               ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29 14:03         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-30 10:25           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-07 21:01           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-08 17:50             ` Yuri Khan
2020-05-08 17:55               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-24  6:35             ` Bastien
2020-04-29 17:52         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-29 19:19           ` Howard Melman
2020-04-30  2:24         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24  6:04 ` Bastien

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