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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07fb1041-5dc5-4930-b36b-25f857642614@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87imhlwg19.fsf@gmail.com>

> The point being that yes, hopefully Emacs users can find their way to
> a menu or a help buffer; but as org-mode shows we can aim for
> something slightly more ergonomic.
> 
> If I have to whip these cheatsheets out every time I want to hide a
> heading (which I used to do before I finally bound
> outline-toggle-children to TAB), I might as well do away with
> keybindings and just M-x outline-hide- TAB *squint* (or install
> which-key and C-c *squint*).

To be clear (but I know you understood), I was
saying that menus, `C-h m', etc. mean that one
doesn't _need to remember_ all key bindings for
a mode.  They serve as a quick (yes) reminder.

Clearly, if someone uses the same menu item a few
times in the same session s?he might start using
the keyboard binding for it that's shown for it.

It's definitely not that the existence of such
help requires one to use it "every time" to
carry out a command.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-27 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-26 15:43 Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 16:13 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-26 18:36   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 19:52     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 20:54       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 22:53         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-26 16:16 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-26 17:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-26 19:29   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 21:54   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-26 22:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 22:41       ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27  7:20         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 15:23           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-04-27 15:31             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-27  7:39       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 14:27         ` Reveal-mode (was: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode) Stefan Monnier
2020-04-27 10:23     ` Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-27 11:45       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 20:30         ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-27 21:24           ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27 23:05           ` John Yates
2020-04-28  2:51           ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24  6:23             ` Bastien
2020-04-28 15:12           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-28 16:41             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-28 17:56               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-28 19:22                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-28 23:35             ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-29 10:53               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-29 11:37                 ` Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core (was: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-29 12:30                   ` Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-04 10:45                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-04 14:50                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-04 16:14                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-06 14:54                           ` [PATCH] Make RET and C-j obey `electric-indent-mode' in org-mode (was: Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 10:48                             ` [PATCH] Make RET and C-j obey `electric-indent-mode' in org-mode Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-07 12:03                               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 12:21                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-07 16:45                                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 16:50                                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 19:38                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-24  6:25                                         ` Bastien
2020-05-07 13:53                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 15:33                               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-24  6:23             ` Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Bastien
2020-05-24  6:18           ` Bastien
2020-04-27 12:14       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-24  6:13   ` Bastien
2020-04-26 18:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-24  6:15   ` Bastien
2020-04-27  2:23 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-27  6:37   ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-27  7:12     ` tomas
2020-04-28  2:49     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-28  9:40       ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-29  3:30         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24  6:16     ` Bastien
2020-04-27  9:59 ` Po Lu
2020-04-27 14:36   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-27 14:49     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  3:27       ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29  3:52         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29 13:54           ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29 14:08             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29 14:17             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-29 14:52               ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29 14:03         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-30 10:25           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-07 21:01           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-08 17:50             ` Yuri Khan
2020-05-08 17:55               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-24  6:35             ` Bastien
2020-04-29 17:52         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-29 19:19           ` Howard Melman
2020-04-30  2:24         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24  6:04 ` Bastien

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