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From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: master a6b5985: Avoid duplicated character classes in rx
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 06:45:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeL0STTjC1XYhLcuvyaj4WYBOWUG3Q94iyA=82=40abeaVPHQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1idS14-0003ZP-EA@fencepost.gnu.org>

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On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 5:48 AM Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

> What does Common Lisp say about the return value of 'push'?

From the Common Lisp Hyperspec:


*Macro* *PUSH*

*Syntax:*

*push* *item place* => *new-place-value*

*Arguments and Values:*

*item*---an *object* <26_glo_o.htm#object>.

*place*---a *place* <26_glo_p.htm#place>, the *value* <26_glo_v.htm#value> of
which may be any *object* <26_glo_o.htm#object>.

*new-place-value*---a *list* <26_glo_l.htm#list> (the new *value*
<26_glo_v.htm#value> of *place*).

*Description:*

*push* <#push> prepends *item* to the *list* <26_glo_l.htm#list> that is
stored in *place*, stores the resulting *list* <26_glo_l.htm#list> in
*place*, and returns the *list* <26_glo_l.htm#list>.


> If Common Lisp describes a certain return value for 'push',
> people will tend to use it that way,

Yes, though as I said, it is very rarely used, at least on our sources. 34
uses
out of ~4,100.

There are also a lot like

(and test-1
     test-2
     ...
     (push item place))

but don't really depend on the return value of `push', they're just using
`and'
as a conditional.

> and I think it would be
> a waste of time changing all code that ever depends on that return value.

At least for our sources, that time's already been wasted, whether we apply
my
patch or not.

> It would be easier to document that return value.

I tend to agree, because I don't like gratuitously discarding CL
compatibility.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-07  5:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20191203142243.9552.27513@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20191203142246.0615C20A2B@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-12-03 15:08   ` master a6b5985: Avoid duplicated character classes in rx Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-03 15:26     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 15:33       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-12-03 16:01         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 16:06           ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-03 17:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 17:46               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-03 18:34                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 18:12               ` Drew Adams
2019-12-03 17:39             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 17:51               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-03 18:36                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 18:43                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-04  4:36             ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-04  5:38               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-03 19:20           ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-12-03 20:21             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-04 11:22           ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-12-06 18:49           ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-06 19:45             ` Drew Adams
2019-12-06 20:11               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-10  3:27                 ` Adam Porter
2019-12-10  4:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-10  4:20                     ` Adam Porter
2019-12-10  6:09                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-10  6:32                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-06 19:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07  4:48             ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-07  5:45               ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2019-12-07 15:18                 ` Drew Adams
2019-12-08  5:13                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-03 17:39         ` Drew Adams
2019-12-03 15:36       ` Juanma Barranquero

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