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From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: master a6b5985: Avoid duplicated character classes in rx
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 21:11:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeL0SRDdHueg1z9M6UHYJEmxx3Pdq+QksNjFv1_wA+e6Mkiqg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c85ee844-04c0-4152-8dfc-92eb739fd4ac@default>

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On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 8:47 PM Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

> FWIW, I disagree that it's necessary, or even worthwhile/helpful,
> to avoid using the return value of `push'.
>
> And I think the return value should be documented.

Well, I would perhaps agree, for CL compatibility' sake. But I think
this is, up to a point, just bikeshedding. As shown, in 99,92% of cases
the return value is not used, and in the 0,08% that it is used, it's
just to avoid

  (progn (push value variable) variable)

or

  (progn (push value variable) t)

And it's a fact that, although push's return value *is* documented in
CL, it has never been so in Emacs, at least going back to cl.el in
Emacs 20 (even back then, there were just vague promises that it was
similar to `setf').

So it'd be nice if it were documented, but it is not, and the few
places that use it can easily be fixed. No big deal, not worth
discussing it IMO.

> (This is like not documenting the return value of `progn' or `setq`'. ;-))

The return value of `progn' is part of its interface and use. As
for `setq', it wouldn't be earthshaking if it wasn't documented.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-06 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20191203142246.0615C20A2B@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-12-03 15:08   ` master a6b5985: Avoid duplicated character classes in rx Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-03 15:26     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 15:33       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-12-03 16:01         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 16:06           ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-03 17:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 17:46               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-03 18:34                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 18:12               ` Drew Adams
2019-12-03 17:39             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 17:51               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-03 18:36                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 18:43                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-04  4:36             ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-04  5:38               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-03 19:20           ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-12-03 20:21             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-04 11:22           ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-12-06 18:49           ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-06 19:45             ` Drew Adams
2019-12-06 20:11               ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2019-12-10  3:27                 ` Adam Porter
2019-12-10  4:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-10  4:20                     ` Adam Porter
2019-12-10  6:09                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-10  6:32                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-06 19:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07  4:48             ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-07  5:45               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-07 15:18                 ` Drew Adams
2019-12-08  5:13                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-03 17:39         ` Drew Adams
2019-12-03 15:36       ` Juanma Barranquero

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