From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: xenodasein@tutanota.de
Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Adding use-package to core
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:30:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83edu5k6jn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <NGpgjG5--3-9@tutanota.de> (xenodasein@tutanota.de)
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 11:32:53 +0100 (CET)
> From: xenodasein@tutanota.de
> Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
>
> Nov 13, 2022, 20:04 by eliz@gnu.org:
>
> >> You said this can be fixed, of course but wouldn't it be much
> >> easier to do without fighting backwards compatibility issues of
> >> core code?
> >
> > Why would maintaining use-package in core present more
> > backward-compatibility issues than when it's maintained outside?
>
> Same reason emacs-devel is not responsible for every single line of
> Elisp code on the Internet? External packages seem to get more love
> from their developers.
Admitting a package into Emacs doesn't mean its developer goes away
and we take over. If the developer can make changes in ELPA, he or
she can also make changes in Emacs. Assuming that the developer wants
to continue developing the package, of course (if not, it means the
package would have died anyway).
IOW, I see no reason to expect that adding a package to Emacs will
slow down, let alone "freeze" its development, not because of it was
added to Emacs anyway.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-14 13:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-13 16:11 Adding use-package to core xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-13 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-13 17:53 ` John Wiegley
2022-11-13 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-13 18:45 ` John Wiegley
2022-11-13 18:05 ` Stefan Kangas
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2022-11-13 18:12 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-13 18:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-13 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-13 19:19 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-13 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-13 18:46 ` John Wiegley
2022-11-13 19:02 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-13 19:48 ` John Wiegley
2022-11-13 22:03 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-11-13 22:45 ` North Year
2022-11-13 23:13 ` Matthew Carter
2022-11-14 8:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-11-14 4:17 ` Tim Cross
2022-11-14 6:02 ` John Wiegley
2022-11-13 20:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-14 10:32 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-14 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-11-14 0:27 ` Po Lu
2022-11-14 10:12 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-14 10:47 ` Po Lu
2022-11-14 11:52 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-14 12:19 ` Po Lu
2022-11-15 15:39 ` Michael Albinus
2022-11-14 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-14 14:47 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-14 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-15 15:38 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-15 16:24 ` Configuration helpers (wad: Adding use-package to core) Stefan Monnier
2022-11-15 19:22 ` Adding use-package to core Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 19:29 ` Sean Whitton
2022-11-18 19:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-18 19:48 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-11-18 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 20:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 7:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 7:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 10:09 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 11:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 11:15 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-19 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 12:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 15:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-19 15:36 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-11-18 0:32 Payas Relekar
2022-11-16 15:29 Payas Relekar
2022-11-16 16:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-16 17:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-17 0:33 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-17 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-17 7:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-17 7:24 ` Payas Relekar
2022-11-17 16:18 ` John Wiegley
2022-11-17 7:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-17 7:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-16 14:18 Payas Relekar
2022-11-16 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-16 19:35 ` John Wiegley
2022-11-16 8:28 Payas Relekar
2022-11-16 9:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-16 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-13 11:55 Payas Relekar
2022-11-13 17:31 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-13 17:40 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-13 18:05 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-13 18:42 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-13 18:24 ` John Wiegley
2022-11-13 7:14 Payas Relekar
2022-10-25 12:06 [ELPA] New package: use-package Payas Relekar
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2022-11-03 16:42 ` Payas Relekar
2022-11-03 16:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-03 16:59 ` Payas Relekar
2022-11-03 17:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-04 18:24 ` John Wiegley
2022-11-04 22:03 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-05 8:06 ` Payas Relekar
2022-11-05 8:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-05 8:45 ` Payas Relekar
2022-11-05 9:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-05 10:13 ` Payas Relekar
2022-11-12 5:42 ` Adding use-package to core Stefan Kangas
2022-11-12 7:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-12 10:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-12 14:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-12 15:38 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-12 15:46 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-12 15:53 ` Payas Relekar
2022-11-12 16:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-13 4:43 ` John Wiegley
2022-11-13 5:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-13 7:07 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-13 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-13 14:09 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-13 15:22 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-13 15:42 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-15 17:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 4:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-16 7:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
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