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* Referring to revisions in the git future.
@ 2014-10-28 22:33 Alan Mackenzie
  2014-10-28 22:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
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From: Alan Mackenzie @ 2014-10-28 22:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Hello, Emacs.

We are switching to git, soon.

git doesn't have revision numbers.  Instead it uses cryptic identifiers,
which are not very useful in day to day conversation.  A bit like in
George Orwell's "Newspeak", where lingusists constantly removed words and
meanings so as to render certain notions literally inexpressible, we seem
to be faced with the same situation.

On this list, one quite often sees statements such as:

    "That was fixed in revision 118147, have you updated since then?"

or

    "The bug seems to have been introduced between 118230 and 118477.
    Maybe you could do a bisect to track it down.".

Is it going to be possible to express such ideas in our git world, in any
meaningful way?  If so, how?  Does git have a useable way of mapping its
cryptic revision identifiers to monotonically increasing natural numbers,
or some other useable scheme?

I have bad feelings about this.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



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* Re: Referring to revisions in the git future.
@ 2014-10-31  9:43 Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 137+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-31  9:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

One of the changes Eric made is this:

  === modified file 'test/automated/thingatpt.el'
  --- test/automated/thingatpt.el 2014-01-01 07:43:34 +0000
  +++ test/automated/thingatpt.el 2014-10-31 08:58:37 +0000
  @@ -26,7 +26,6 @@
       ("http://2.gnu.org" 6 url "http://2.gnu.org")
       ("http://3.gnu.org" 19 url "http://3.gnu.org")
       ("https://4.gnu.org" 1  url "https://4.gnu.org")
  -    ("bzr://savannah.gnu.org" 1 url "bzr://savannah.gnu.org")
       ("A geo URI (geo:3.14159,-2.71828)." 12 url "geo:3.14159,-2.71828")
       ("Visit http://5.gnu.org now." 5 url nil)
       ("Visit http://6.gnu.org now." 7 url "http://6.gnu.org")

I'm not sure this is necessary.  First, the Emacs bzr repository on
Savannah will probably remain in place for some time to come.  And
second, if we want to replace it, we should use the URL of the git
repository instead.  I see no need to make our test coverage smaller
than what he have now.

Comments?



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2014-10-28 22:33 Referring to revisions in the git future Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-28 22:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-28 23:05   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-28 23:24     ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-31 22:47     ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-29  0:49 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29  3:38   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 12:26     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 12:41       ` Alexander Baier
2014-10-29 14:52   ` Barry Warsaw
2014-10-29 15:01     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29 15:06       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 18:12         ` Barry Warsaw
2014-10-29 22:09           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-29 22:29             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 23:31               ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-30  0:01                 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-10-30  1:53                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30  2:10                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30  2:13                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-30  2:48                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30  2:25                     ` Glenn Morris
2014-10-30 10:10                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 13:03                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 13:40                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 14:00                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 13:02                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 15:12                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 16:49                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30  6:46                 ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-30  7:36                   ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-10-30  8:09                     ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-30  8:31                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30  9:53                       ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-30 10:13                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 10:32                           ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-30 11:13                             ` Nicolas Richard
2014-10-30 10:12                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 13:29                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 15:33                         ` DVCS design philosophy Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 16:59                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 17:41                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-31 20:18                         ` Referring to revisions in the git future Nicolas Richard
2014-10-31 21:11                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-01  1:44                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-01  7:58                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 14:20                       ` Barry Warsaw
2014-11-01  1:23                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-30 15:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-30  3:32           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-30  4:35             ` Barry Warsaw
2014-10-30  5:24               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-30 10:17               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 13:42               ` Alex Bennée
2014-10-30 13:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-31  6:36               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-31 19:42               ` David Kastrup
2014-11-01  1:34                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-01  7:05                   ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-01  7:09                     ` Dima Kogan
2014-11-01  7:28                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-01  7:49                     ` David Kastrup
2014-11-01  9:46                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 10:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-01 11:33                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 13:06                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-01 13:21                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 10:29                         ` David Kastrup
2014-11-01 11:29                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 11:57                             ` David Kastrup
2014-11-01 12:29                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 12:47                                 ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-01 13:46                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 18:58                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-01 12:49                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29  1:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29  6:06   ` Werner LEMBERG
2014-10-29  9:01     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29  8:50 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29  9:52   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 11:00     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29 14:32       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-29 14:35         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29 14:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-30  4:44             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-30  8:32               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 10:25                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 11:51                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 12:14                     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 15:01                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 15:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-30 15:56                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 16:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-31  7:47                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-31  8:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-31 10:21                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 12:35     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 13:00       ` Jose E. Marchesi
2014-10-29 13:59         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 14:39           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 14:46             ` Rasmus
2014-10-29 14:52               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30  0:58               ` Rob Browning
2014-10-29 15:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 14:04         ` utf8 and emacs text/string multibyte representation Camm Maguire
2014-10-29 14:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-29 15:55             ` Camm Maguire
2014-10-29 16:19               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-30 14:13                 ` Camm Maguire
2014-10-30 16:06                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-30 16:27                     ` Camm Maguire
2014-10-30 16:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-31 18:05                         ` Camm Maguire
2014-11-01  9:01                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-01 18:32                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-01 18:41                               ` David Kastrup
2014-11-01 19:09                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-02  0:56                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-01  1:16                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 16:45             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 15:56           ` Raymond Toy
2014-10-30 14:16             ` Camm Maguire
2014-10-31 18:47               ` Sam Steingold
2014-10-31 21:00                 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-31 19:52               ` [Gcl-devel] " Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30  3:08           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 13:26       ` Referring to revisions in the git future Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 14:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 14:49           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30  2:43           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 13:08     ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-29 13:27       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 13:49         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 18:03           ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-29 11:18   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-29 11:37     ` David Kastrup
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2014-10-31  9:43 Eli Zaretskii

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