From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.lisp.gcl.devel Subject: Re: utf8 and emacs text/string multibyte representation Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 04:09:33 +0900 Message-ID: <87k33e20wi.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87wq7jxc7d.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjcfx985.fsf_-_@maguirefamily.org> <83mw8f0w08.fsf@gnu.org> <87oasu3m72.fsf@maguirefamily.org> <83bnou26is.fsf@gnu.org> <87bnotwsqn.fsf@maguirefamily.org> <83y4rxzgmm.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhnxo73l.fsf@maguirefamily.org> <83wq7hzf9t.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9ykazdr.fsf@maguirefamily.org> <831tpnz442.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw8a22mo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y4ru227h.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414869017 25792 80.91.229.3 (1 Nov 2014 19:10:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 19:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gcl-devel@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 01 20:10:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xke3u-0004ZQ-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 20:10:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53514 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xke3t-0004mF-M2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 15:10:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56335) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xke3Z-0004j9-Sf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 15:09:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xke3S-000193-El for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 15:09:49 -0400 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:33233) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xke3K-00017V-Eb; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 15:09:34 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FDB1C39A5; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 04:09:33 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 16B2B1A27CF; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 04:09:33 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87y4ru227h.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176222 gmane.lisp.gcl.devel:8818 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > string-as-unibyte and string-as-multibyte most certainly are available > for going from one to the other. But the commands working on either > unibyte or multibyte strings are the same. True. Thanks for pointing that out. > Similar for buffers. I=C2=A0have no idea whether this is a problem > vector for creating inconsistent multibyte content. I could > imagine it to be, And indeed it was. > but so could be user-created CCL programs for code conversion. True, but few users ever create CCL programs. It's something only a specialist would do, so as far as I'm concerned that's not an attractive nuisance the way *-as-unibyte are. YMMV etc.