From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Referring to revisions in the git future. Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:25:29 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <874mul97mu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141028223312.GB6630@acm.acm> <87fve7b6p7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141029095248.GA14601@thyrsus.com> <87y4rz9m4d.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83ppdb0wv8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fve79c57.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83lhnz0vt3.fsf@gnu.org> <20141030083258.GB2683@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414664763 12667 80.91.229.3 (30 Oct 2014 10:26:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:26:03 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 30 11:25:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XjmvU-0000uO-Kr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:25:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52400 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjmvU-0002wI-8T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 06:25:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54314) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjmvL-0002vo-SC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 06:25:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjmvG-0004bW-Di for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 06:25:47 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42851) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjmvG-0004bB-1z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 06:25:42 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XjmvE-0000kM-Lq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:25:40 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f41466.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.20.102]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:25:40 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f41466.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:25:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f41466.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0szrD6n/Wm96GQPnZC5mV2C6r7k= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176068 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > Richard Stallman : >> I've never used git, and I doubt I will use it for anything except Emacs. >> I hope Emacs will advertise a simple recommended beginner's git workflow. > > The wiki describes it in detail. I was of the opinion that the idea of a wiki caught on at some point of time, so I am surprised to hear that there is still only one. At any rate, that's not an on-site resource for somebody having installed a full copy of Emacs. One of the main points of a distributed version control system is the ability to work offline. "There is some instruction somewhere on the Internet" is not a sufficient excuse for leaving Emacs without any resources pointing out the desired workflow for Emacs developers. If "the wiki" is an authoritive source for the workflow of Emacs developers, it means that anybody who wants to can tell the Emacs developers how to do their work. Since not everybody agrees with the ways mossbacks keep track of the copyright status of contributions (for example), this can easily lead to such instructions getting out of synch with the legal requirements put forth by the FSF and/or agreed upon by the Emacs developers. -- David Kastrup