From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Barry Warsaw Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Referring to revisions in the git future Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:20:45 -0400 Organization: Damn Crazy Followers of the Horn Message-ID: <20141030102045.4cfc9315@anarchist.wooz.org> References: <20141029004942.GA25241@thyrsus.com> <20141029105202.249acb5a@anarchist.wooz.org> <87bnouapiy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141029150600.GA5701@thyrsus.com> <20141029141216.7abbbc0d@anarchist.wooz.org> <20141029222946.GA13673@thyrsus.com> <545178BE.2050505@cs.ucla.edu> <87k33i9fgi.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <20141030083156.GA2683@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/o6=Aze4xfk7pPuw.WL0dNaj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414780627 10362 80.91.229.3 (31 Oct 2014 18:37:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:37:07 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 31 19:37:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XkH4E-0001mB-1V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 19:36:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40918 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XkH4D-0005sS-73 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:36:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44044) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XkEOa-0005ea-4A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:46:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xjqb4-0007XD-HB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:21:14 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xjqb4-0007Wr-A5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:21:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xjqaw-0002Rz-NI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:20:59 +0100 Original-Received: from mail.wooz.org ([216.15.33.194]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:20:58 +0100 Original-Received: from barry by mail.wooz.org with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:20:58 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 46 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.wooz.org X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176127 Archived-At: --Sig_/o6=Aze4xfk7pPuw.WL0dNaj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Oct 30, 2014, at 04:31 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >The tension here is fundamental. You can have easy typo fixes, or you >can have a record that is both reliable and snared, but not both. I >think the latter is more important than the former. It also requires more care in writing commit messages, since often (althoug= h I can't speak for Emacs) commit messages and changelogs are intended for different audiences. When committing changes in Mailman for example, I'll include a lot more detail about a change so that future developers have a g= ood history spelunking experience, but a changelog/NEWS file will give only the higher level user visible changes. 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