From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Referring to revisions in the git future. Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:38:26 +0900 Message-ID: <877fzj4kb1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20141028223312.GB6630@acm.acm> <20141029004942.GA25241@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414553940 26914 80.91.229.3 (29 Oct 2014 03:39:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 03:39:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 04:38:52 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XjK5w-0001AW-C9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 04:38:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42480 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjK5w-0006Sh-0j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60442) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjK5l-0006SZ-N6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:38:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjK5e-00087v-6W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:57230) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjK5d-00087n-Sk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:38:30 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194591C3AB9; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:38:27 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0C54D1A27CF; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:38:26 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <20141029004942.GA25241@thyrsus.com> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175962 Archived-At: Eric S. Raymond writes: > I agree that git hashes make a terrrible reference format. I agree, but only because so many people I need to communicate with think so. In a more perfect world, I'd go with the easily recognizable and unambiguous IDs. The main advantage is that you never have conversations like E: I believe that was fixed in r666042. S: But how does a commit to Gnus fix vc-git? and you do have conversations like E: I fixed that in commit FACECAFE. S: I just pulled, and there's no FACECAFE here. E: OMG!! ... Try it now. If you live in Emacs, this is hardly inconvenient as long as you have get-log-for-sha1-near-point (unimplemented :-) and get-logs-for-sha1s-in-buffer (also unimplemented :-). Heck, if we agreed on this, I bet larsi would provide a zero-day exploit which washes your message presentation buffer and provides mouse-over tooltips containing the log for each SHA1 in the message. Sure there are design issues (which repo, mainly), but these could be handled.