From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: windows-1251 language environment
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:50:19 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200310280850.RAA05963@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ekx0dne0.fsf@emacswiki.org> (message from Alex Schroeder on Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:33:43 +0100)
In article <87ekx0dne0.fsf@emacswiki.org>, Alex Schroeder <alex@emacswiki.org> writes:
> Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk> writes:
>> The trouble with `language' environments is that they have little to
>> do with the language per se. If you're not going by system defaults
>> (locales), I think you want to provide orthogonal customization of
>> language, codeset, and other features. If you lump them all together,
>> you'll have probably four for each Western European language: latin-1,
>> latin-9, windows-1252 and utf-8. Then multiply by two or three for
>> the possible input methods. Then the calendar is different in
>> territories with the same language...
> I agree with Dave Love. Take Switzerland as an example, and let us
> only talk about German and French, excluding Italian and
> Rhaeto-Romance. We speak German, but we use a different ispell
> dictionary because instead of a sharp s we use double-s, and we use
> our own keyboard layout. We use any of the four coding systems Dave
> lists. We use a different date format (last time I checked). The
> French speaking Swiss use the French ispell dictionary, but they, too,
> have a different keyboard layout.
> The language per se is not enough information.
That's why I didn't simply use the term "language" but used
"language environment". I agree that it's ridiculous to
provide all possible combinations in advance. But, I think
there should be a way to name a set of various orthogonal
customizations so that a user can easily switch from one set
to another by specifying a name. I think we should treat a
"language environment" as something like a `theme' which is
a collection of customizations of faces.
---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org
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2003-10-07 2:54 ` windows-1251 language environment Kenichi Handa
2003-10-07 11:56 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-12 15:45 ` Dave Love
2003-10-17 12:49 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-17 13:22 ` Terje Rosten
2003-10-17 14:36 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-17 16:58 ` Terje Rosten
2003-10-21 22:38 ` Dave Love
2003-10-23 9:23 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-24 17:07 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-08 4:51 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-08 10:40 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-09 14:44 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-12 15:40 ` Dave Love
2003-10-13 23:50 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-14 19:31 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-15 13:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-15 14:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-16 9:16 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-16 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-17 6:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-21 22:48 ` Dave Love
2003-10-20 19:47 ` Dave Love
2003-10-16 14:06 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-28 8:51 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-10 17:11 ` Dave Love
2003-10-10 17:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-12 17:21 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-14 22:24 ` Dave Love
2003-10-15 20:00 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-20 19:50 ` Dave Love
2003-10-22 9:24 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-25 16:10 ` Dave Love
2003-10-26 15:33 ` Alex Schroeder
2003-10-28 8:50 ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2003-10-27 7:02 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-28 12:35 ` Dave Love
2003-10-29 19:01 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-15 22:27 ` Jason Rumney
2003-10-16 16:16 ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-10-16 16:38 ` Jason Rumney
2003-10-14 0:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-14 19:31 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-14 22:33 ` Dave Love
2003-10-13 12:46 ` Dave Love
2003-10-14 0:37 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-15 14:38 ` Dave Love
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