From: Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@f2s.com, pogonyshev@gmx.net
Subject: Re: windows-1251 language environment
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:11:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <rzqismxvwz1.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200310070254.LAA11795@etlken.m17n.org
Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:
> At first, I have installed a mechanism of auto-loading a
> coding system.
Is it really worth it for the 8-bit sets? I'm not sure whether to
think this is significant or not:
let ((stats (garbage-collect)))
(load "code-pages")
(pp (list stats (garbage-collect))))
=> (((50679 . 9813)
(10196 . 1)
(587 . 129)
127582 175645
(55 . 76)
(48 . 22)
(8025 . 1488))
((54148 . 6344)
(10538 . 39)
(588 . 128)
134356 312873
(55 . 76)
(48 . 22)
(8443 . 1070)))
> I have not yet tested it fully. We may have to add GCPROs
> in several places.
<URL:ftp://dlpx1.dl.ac.uk/fx/emacs/Mule/autoload-coding-systems.diff>
was reasonably well tested, probably also on a system where gcpro was
relevant then (though I don't know if I tested it by forcing GC during
loading).
> Right. I think what we need for language environment is a
> mechanism similar to face; i.e. creating a new one easily
> while allowing inheriting, and customizing an existing one
> easily.
I did something about customizing the language alist some time ago.
As far as I remember, it naturally used the mechanism for overriding
elements of the standard value in customized lists, and that interface
was vetoed for reasons I didn't understand. Presumably inheritance
would use a similar mechanism, but I'm not sure how useful it is.
As it is, a language environment has to cover several things that
should be orthogonal:
* The language (which might influence input methods as well as the
default Ispell dictionary, at least);
* The charset/coding system preferences (which might also influence
input methods, though the hooks now in Quail make that less of an
issue);
* Other things that currently aren't dealt with properly, like paper
size (for ps-print), calendar holidays &c (which may depend on the
locale territory, not just the language).
> For instance, in such a case, we can allow people to create
> a new lang. env. by inheriting, for instance, Russian, and
> modifying coding-system to windows-1251.
Is this actually better than allowing them to specify (the equivalent
of) the locale ru_RU.windows-1251?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-10 17:11 UTC|newest]
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2003-10-07 2:54 ` windows-1251 language environment Kenichi Handa
2003-10-07 11:56 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-12 15:45 ` Dave Love
2003-10-17 12:49 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-17 13:22 ` Terje Rosten
2003-10-17 14:36 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-17 16:58 ` Terje Rosten
2003-10-21 22:38 ` Dave Love
2003-10-23 9:23 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-24 17:07 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-08 4:51 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-08 10:40 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-09 14:44 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-12 15:40 ` Dave Love
2003-10-13 23:50 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-14 19:31 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-15 13:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-15 14:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-16 9:16 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-16 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-17 6:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-21 22:48 ` Dave Love
2003-10-20 19:47 ` Dave Love
2003-10-16 14:06 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-28 8:51 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-10 17:11 ` Dave Love [this message]
2003-10-10 17:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-12 17:21 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-14 22:24 ` Dave Love
2003-10-15 20:00 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-20 19:50 ` Dave Love
2003-10-22 9:24 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-25 16:10 ` Dave Love
2003-10-26 15:33 ` Alex Schroeder
2003-10-28 8:50 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-27 7:02 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-28 12:35 ` Dave Love
2003-10-29 19:01 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-15 22:27 ` Jason Rumney
2003-10-16 16:16 ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-10-16 16:38 ` Jason Rumney
2003-10-14 0:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-14 19:31 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-14 22:33 ` Dave Love
2003-10-13 12:46 ` Dave Love
2003-10-14 0:37 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-15 14:38 ` Dave Love
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