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From: Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk>
Cc: handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA,
	jasonr@f2s.com, pogonyshev@gmx.net
Subject: Re: windows-1251 language environment
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:35:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rzqllr51qwv.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1AE1Oc-0007Ps-QR@fencepost.gnu.org

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     The trouble with `language' environments is that they have little to
>     do with the language per se.  If you're not going by system defaults
>     (locales), I think you want to provide orthogonal customization of
>     language, codeset, and other features.  If you lump them all together,
>     you'll have probably four for each Western European language: latin-1,
>     latin-9, windows-1252 and utf-8.
>
> that wd be tru if thatwere the one and only way to spec all of them.
> but we already have other ways in emacs.

I was responding to:

  But there should also be a command or user option
  where you specify just the language, and other things default from
  that to the extent possible.  And that's what should be in the menus.

I can't see how simply `language' is the appropriate way to deal with
this, and a one-dimensional specification of the parameters seems
quite impractical, as above.  Also I can't see why customizing
language, territory and character set (with defaults for the latter
two) isn't a reasonable thing to offer users.  I have given this some
thought and some implementation.

If you must consider only language, why isn't this an appropriate use
of Custom themes, anyway?

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-28 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.878.1064866468.21628.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <200310032356.54476.pogonyshev@gmx.net>
     [not found]   ` <rzq1xtrsdrm.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk>
     [not found]     ` <200310060013.52049.pogonyshev@gmx.net>
2003-10-07  2:54       ` windows-1251 language environment Kenichi Handa
2003-10-07 11:56         ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-12 15:45           ` Dave Love
2003-10-17 12:49             ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-17 13:22               ` Terje Rosten
2003-10-17 14:36                 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-17 16:58                   ` Terje Rosten
2003-10-21 22:38               ` Dave Love
2003-10-23  9:23                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-24 17:07                 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-08  4:51         ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-08 10:40           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-09 14:44             ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-12 15:40               ` Dave Love
2003-10-13 23:50               ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-14 19:31                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-15 13:44                   ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-15 14:55                     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-16  9:16                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-16 16:44                         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-17  6:10                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-21 22:48                           ` Dave Love
2003-10-20 19:47                       ` Dave Love
2003-10-16 14:06                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-28  8:51                       ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-10 17:11         ` Dave Love
2003-10-10 17:42           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-12 17:21             ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-14 22:24               ` Dave Love
2003-10-15 20:00                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-20 19:50                   ` Dave Love
2003-10-22  9:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-25 16:10                       ` Dave Love
2003-10-26 15:33                         ` Alex Schroeder
2003-10-28  8:50                           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-27  7:02                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-28 12:35                           ` Dave Love [this message]
2003-10-29 19:01                             ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-15 22:27                 ` Jason Rumney
2003-10-16 16:16                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-10-16 16:38                     ` Jason Rumney
2003-10-14  0:44             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-14 19:31               ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-14 22:33             ` Dave Love
2003-10-13 12:46           ` Dave Love
2003-10-14  0:37           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-15 14:38             ` Dave Love

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