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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, d.love@dl.ac.uk, jasonr@f2s.com
Subject: Re: windows-1251 language environment
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:54:46 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200310070254.LAA11795@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200310060013.52049.pogonyshev@gmx.net> (message from Paul Pogonyshev on Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:15:06 +0000)

At first, I have installed a mechanism of auto-loading a
coding system.  As Dave suggested long ago, I added a code
to auto-load a coding system in the function
Fcheck_coding_system.  See the change in code-pages.el which
adds one autoload cookie for iso-8859-11 as an example.

I have not yet tested it fully.  We may have to add GCPROs
in several places.

In article <200310060013.52049.pogonyshev@gmx.net>, Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@gmx.net> writes:
>>  [Not even utf-8?]  That's not the point, though.  You're arguing
>>  essentially for an explosion of language environments crossing the
>>  existing ones with windows-125N &c (not just Cyrillic ones).  We think
>>  that isn't the right way to approach the problem and no-one else seems
>>  likely to work on this.

I agree that we should avoid creating many many predefined
language environments.

> This basically ends the discussion.  However, i don't agree that it's the
> most intuitive interface.

Right.  I think what we need for language environment is a
mechanism similar to face; i.e. creating a new one easily
while allowing inheriting, and customizing an existing one
easily.

> Let's imagine how it happens.  People look at language/coding support and
> see language environment.  They think: "Aha, i set a language environment
> and everything works".  But then they suddenly discover that setting
> "Russian" (or some else) language environment doesn't suffice.  They look
> for another, similar environment, but with different codepage.  And don't
> found it.

For instance, in such a case, we can allow people to create
a new lang. env. by inheriting, for instance, Russian, and
modifying coding-system to windows-1251.

C-h L (describe-language-environment) should also have
these clickable lines:
	You can customize this language environment.
and
	You can create a new language environment that inherits
	this language environment.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org

       reply	other threads:[~2003-10-07  2:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2003-10-07  2:54       ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2003-10-07 11:56         ` windows-1251 language environment Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-12 15:45           ` Dave Love
2003-10-17 12:49             ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-17 13:22               ` Terje Rosten
2003-10-17 14:36                 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-17 16:58                   ` Terje Rosten
2003-10-21 22:38               ` Dave Love
2003-10-23  9:23                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-24 17:07                 ` Anton Zinoviev
2003-10-08  4:51         ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-08 10:40           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-09 14:44             ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-12 15:40               ` Dave Love
2003-10-13 23:50               ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-14 19:31                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-15 13:44                   ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-15 14:55                     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-16  9:16                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-16 16:44                         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-17  6:10                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-21 22:48                           ` Dave Love
2003-10-20 19:47                       ` Dave Love
2003-10-16 14:06                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-28  8:51                       ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-10 17:11         ` Dave Love
2003-10-10 17:42           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-12 17:21             ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-14 22:24               ` Dave Love
2003-10-15 20:00                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-20 19:50                   ` Dave Love
2003-10-22  9:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-25 16:10                       ` Dave Love
2003-10-26 15:33                         ` Alex Schroeder
2003-10-28  8:50                           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-27  7:02                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-28 12:35                           ` Dave Love
2003-10-29 19:01                             ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-15 22:27                 ` Jason Rumney
2003-10-16 16:16                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-10-16 16:38                     ` Jason Rumney
2003-10-14  0:44             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-14 19:31               ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-14 22:33             ` Dave Love
2003-10-13 12:46           ` Dave Love
2003-10-14  0:37           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-15 14:38             ` Dave Love

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