* bug#26024: Help with download...
@ 2017-03-08 8:40 Christopher Smith
2017-03-08 12:38 ` Phillip Lord
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Smith @ 2017-03-08 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 26024
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Hi sir/ma'am, I'm trying to download GMACS for windows 10, but I'm having
trouble. I click on the two links under windows and get a huge list of
links. I click a few links and they download this zip folder. I'm not sure
if I'm downloading the right thing or if there is something in a particular
folder I'm looking for, maybe that directory? Could you tell me which link
I need to click and what I need to do once I open the zip folder? Thank you
very much!
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* bug#26024: Help with download...
2017-03-08 8:40 bug#26024: Help with download Christopher Smith
@ 2017-03-08 12:38 ` Phillip Lord
2017-03-08 21:34 ` Christopher Smith
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Phillip Lord @ 2017-03-08 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christopher Smith; +Cc: 26024
Christopher Smith <cmsmith193@gmail.com> writes:
> Hi sir/ma'am, I'm trying to download GMACS for windows 10, but I'm having
> trouble. I click on the two links under windows and get a huge list of
> links. I click a few links and they download this zip folder. I'm not sure
> if I'm downloading the right thing or if there is something in a particular
> folder I'm looking for, maybe that directory? Could you tell me which link
> I need to click and what I need to do once I open the zip folder? Thank you
> very much!
That would be "Emacs" not "Gmacs".
The file you want is "runemacs.exe" in the "bin" directory. Also you can
use "addpm.exe" which will add Emacs onto the start screen in windows
10.
Let us know if this works.
Phil
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* bug#26024: Help with download...
2017-03-08 12:38 ` Phillip Lord
@ 2017-03-08 21:34 ` Christopher Smith
2017-03-09 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Smith @ 2017-03-08 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Phillip Lord; +Cc: 26024
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I go to ... https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html ... then click
on GNU mirror (or GNU server) under the windows section and get a bunch of
links. I don't think I'm in the right section. Is that even the right
website? Thanks!
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
wrote:
> Christopher Smith <cmsmith193@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi sir/ma'am, I'm trying to download GMACS for windows 10, but I'm having
> > trouble. I click on the two links under windows and get a huge list of
> > links. I click a few links and they download this zip folder. I'm not
> sure
> > if I'm downloading the right thing or if there is something in a
> particular
> > folder I'm looking for, maybe that directory? Could you tell me which
> link
> > I need to click and what I need to do once I open the zip folder? Thank
> you
> > very much!
>
>
> That would be "Emacs" not "Gmacs".
>
> The file you want is "runemacs.exe" in the "bin" directory. Also you can
> use "addpm.exe" which will add Emacs onto the start screen in windows
> 10.
>
> Let us know if this works.
>
> Phil
>
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* bug#26024: Help with download...
2017-03-08 21:34 ` Christopher Smith
@ 2017-03-09 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 5:09 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-03-09 3:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christopher Smith; +Cc: 26024, phillip.lord
> From: Christopher Smith <cmsmith193@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 16:34:00 -0500
> Cc: 26024@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> I go to ... https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html ... then click on GNU mirror (or GNU server)
> under the windows section and get a bunch of links. I don't think I'm in the right section. Is that even the right
> website? Thanks!
You are in the right website. Choose the highest version number of
Emacs among all the links you see there, in this case emacs-25.1-2,
and click on its link. There are a 32-bit build and a 64-bit build,
choose the one that fits your OS.
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* bug#26024: Help with download...
2017-03-09 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2017-03-09 5:09 ` Glenn Morris
2017-03-09 6:00 ` Christopher Smith
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0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2017-03-09 5:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 26024, Christopher Smith, phillip.lord
FWIW I think the point here is that "here's the ftp server, you figure
out which file you need" is now archaic. The new thing is A Big
Button that you press that defaults to the "right" file for you, and a
small "other versions" link. See eg firefox.com.
Also, one normally skips to the end to get the latest version, but on
ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows, "emacs-25.1-2" sorts before "emacs-25.1",
which doesn't help.
Perhaps MS Windows users are additionally confused to not get an .exe
file that they Just Click to start installing. There's a 200 line README
file that explains what to do, but no-one reads the README. :)
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* bug#26024: Help with download...
2017-03-09 5:09 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2017-03-09 6:00 ` Christopher Smith
2017-03-09 14:37 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-09 15:19 ` Phillip Lord
2021-09-25 18:32 ` Stefan Kangas
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Smith @ 2017-03-09 6:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 26024, Phillip Lord
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Yeah Mr. Morris, you're onto something there. I'm a sophomore physics
student just looking around the web for useful tools and Quora.com lead me
to emacs. I honestly have no idea what it is though and my programming
skills end at hello world. Us windows users are definitely used to just
going url => downloads => windows => for latest version click here! Thank
you all so much though for the quick responses!
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> FWIW I think the point here is that "here's the ftp server, you figure
> out which file you need" is now archaic. The new thing is A Big
> Button that you press that defaults to the "right" file for you, and a
> small "other versions" link. See eg firefox.com.
>
> Also, one normally skips to the end to get the latest version, but on
> ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows, "emacs-25.1-2" sorts before "emacs-25.1",
> which doesn't help.
>
> Perhaps MS Windows users are additionally confused to not get an .exe
> file that they Just Click to start installing. There's a 200 line README
> file that explains what to do, but no-one reads the README. :)
>
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* bug#26024: Help with download...
2017-03-09 6:00 ` Christopher Smith
@ 2017-03-09 14:37 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2017-03-09 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christopher Smith, Glenn Morris; +Cc: 26024, Phillip Lord
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I think this might also be relevant:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-03/msg00084.html
At least if a README is present someone might think to look at it. If none is present then it's a guessing game. And even with the README, as the message above indicates, the zip-file naming convention is not obvious.
From: Christopher Smith [mailto:cmsmith193@gmail.com]
Yeah Mr. Morris, you're onto something there. I'm a sophomore physics student just looking around the web for useful tools and Quora.com lead me to emacs. I honestly have no idea what it is though and my programming skills end at hello world. Us windows users are definitely used to just going url => downloads => windows => for latest version click here! Thank you all so much though for the quick responses!
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Glenn Morris <HYPERLINK "mailto:rgm@gnu.org" \nrgm@gnu.org> wrote:
FWIW I think the point here is that "here's the ftp server, you figure
out which file you need" is now archaic. The new thing is A Big
Button that you press that defaults to the "right" file for you, and a
small "other versions" link. See eg HYPERLINK "http://firefox.com" \nfirefox.com.
Also, one normally skips to the end to get the latest version, but on
HYPERLINK "http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows" \nftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows, "emacs-25.1-2" sorts before "emacs-25.1",
which doesn't help.
Perhaps MS Windows users are additionally confused to not get an .exe
file that they Just Click to start installing. There's a 200 line README
file that explains what to do, but no-one reads the README. :)
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* bug#26024: Help with download...
2017-03-09 5:09 ` Glenn Morris
2017-03-09 6:00 ` Christopher Smith
@ 2017-03-09 15:19 ` Phillip Lord
2021-09-25 18:32 ` Stefan Kangas
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Phillip Lord @ 2017-03-09 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Christopher Smith, 26024
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> FWIW I think the point here is that "here's the ftp server, you figure
> out which file you need" is now archaic. The new thing is A Big
> Button that you press that defaults to the "right" file for you, and a
> small "other versions" link. See eg firefox.com.
>
> Also, one normally skips to the end to get the latest version, but on
> ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows, "emacs-25.1-2" sorts before "emacs-25.1",
> which doesn't help.
>
> Perhaps MS Windows users are additionally confused to not get an .exe
> file that they Just Click to start installing. There's a 200 line README
> file that explains what to do, but no-one reads the README. :)
All valid points. I'm not a fan of the windows distribution mechanism,
and think it is too complicated.
Phil
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* bug#26024: Help with download...
2017-03-09 5:09 ` Glenn Morris
2017-03-09 6:00 ` Christopher Smith
2017-03-09 15:19 ` Phillip Lord
@ 2021-09-25 18:32 ` Stefan Kangas
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2021-09-25 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: phillip.lord, 26024, Christopher Smith
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> FWIW I think the point here is that "here's the ftp server, you figure
> out which file you need" is now archaic. The new thing is A Big
> Button that you press that defaults to the "right" file for you, and a
> small "other versions" link. See eg firefox.com.
>
> Also, one normally skips to the end to get the latest version, but on
> ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows, "emacs-25.1-2" sorts before "emacs-25.1",
> which doesn't help.
>
> Perhaps MS Windows users are additionally confused to not get an .exe
> file that they Just Click to start installing. There's a 200 line README
> file that explains what to do, but no-one reads the README. :)
It seems like there are some basic instructions in place here now:
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html#nonfree
But perhaps the Windows link should simply point to the latest available
zip file, with a link to the FTP server saying "you can find old
versions here". Someone would need to be in charge of updating that
link when a new Windows version is uploaded.
Presumably the best candidate would be Philipp, who is in charge of
releasing Emacs for Windows. So I guess this comes down to what Philipp
thinks about this, and if updating such a link is something he is
willing to take on.
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