From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26024: Help with download... Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:32:54 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87shmo2bag.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834lz3gm23.fsf@gnu.org> <9ifuin8298.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12775"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, 26024@debbugs.gnu.org, Christopher Smith To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 25 20:34:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUCVL-0002zJ-Hg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 20:34:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52802 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUCVK-0005NU-Gf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:34:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUCUt-0005N0-W5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51396) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUCUs-0008TR-Na for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUCUs-0002bC-LW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:34:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 18:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26024 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 26024-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26024.16325947839886 (code B ref 26024); Sat, 25 Sep 2021 18:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26024) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2021 18:33:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34702 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUCTu-0002ZB-E7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-f48.google.com ([209.85.216.48]:45887) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUCTs-0002Yl-Td for 26024@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:33:01 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-f48.google.com with SMTP id mv7-20020a17090b198700b0019c843e7233so9964577pjb.4 for <26024@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:33:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=iHVm5jhnwST/hVT3/SAmtVvpGD/KXAEqlKieAG/81I0=; b=dDYc0AXdHo427Pls3QqcjM4e7/Y3VWzdBC3AaEA784YjCjesUFm+FtbXHL3qzBjeEQ 9jowfJY1ibgy5LCCG927WW27XSLsQ2au2mpDUbG61njE++nsiLtRUV7o2A+C3RkkU3o1 nxHi1czkwYCyaPvEuMBM+EViiKf+NpLANEjeTzefmsI9xI3xsKsCVylSX8G5TPWDiwWF BQ9vL9EuBtsQYp8HYvKgzl0gdkIwNeTbPSJFyMEwDy3fsgg0xV28rTwGXZ9w8PekKm/z Mi/iks/dF+rhfOLBCUNykt1Izopn7zNIwyhmyjwYeQqTf1RMU122wBsYnJMKF7XvBBK4 nzKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533YZgoHDiCU2SR+reDfQ7EOcQpC2WOt9BN0MjWKwvFSySoFsyFC GgvF02QlZY9Su4Qo7cy2D3OO35rYsoPbHMXvlxk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyuBTYp/IgJHE+FuInsVElDzCnBLSAUmPAbk0xJIk/ldPCOfaiquT/9RH5nXYpmlwQUFUI9UmR8cjPxfDFCQno= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3805:: with SMTP id mq5mr9582726pjb.143.1632594775098; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:32:54 -0700 In-Reply-To: <9ifuin8298.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:09:39 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215499 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > FWIW I think the point here is that "here's the ftp server, you figure > out which file you need" is now archaic. The new thing is A Big > Button that you press that defaults to the "right" file for you, and a > small "other versions" link. See eg firefox.com. > > Also, one normally skips to the end to get the latest version, but on > ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows, "emacs-25.1-2" sorts before "emacs-25.1", > which doesn't help. > > Perhaps MS Windows users are additionally confused to not get an .exe > file that they Just Click to start installing. There's a 200 line README > file that explains what to do, but no-one reads the README. :) It seems like there are some basic instructions in place here now: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html#nonfree But perhaps the Windows link should simply point to the latest available zip file, with a link to the FTP server saying "you can find old versions here". Someone would need to be in charge of updating that link when a new Windows version is uploaded. Presumably the best candidate would be Philipp, who is in charge of releasing Emacs for Windows. So I guess this comes down to what Philipp thinks about this, and if updating such a link is something he is willing to take on.