From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26024: Help with download... Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 15:19:36 +0000 Message-ID: <8760jiscjb.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87shmo2bag.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834lz3gm23.fsf@gnu.org> <9ifuin8298.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489072826 3819 195.159.176.226 (9 Mar 2017 15:20:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 15:20:26 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: Christopher Smith , 26024@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 09 16:20:21 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clzrT-0008Mx-Ns for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 16:20:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34688 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clzrZ-00075Z-LC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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b=W1JOuS8+C+xGEaqgd5RvEpJCt PGdWso37/abHg5RJe4R2HYNZAwlD8+nP9vf07uZsW+QGqLV+VQ1pxgdsmGznHa/BTBVwmQSwX9Isx X6VZpr+Fl0VZqu6i8m2H/nVeUEFAGjlLZ17/2eM8gEp6nTOw+OoeEu9hkVJkJ4GUCIa36pkDvCdFb JS0vA4DkVxANVEZ5BvpzG0zDTv488eSC96EhAWK8L/45DfsZS7dYM3Yjk6BTIMun6HzbfxbYI1Li6 RVaAggaVAI1gFiPaYCvlH27eLw/W1PSknqzbmE9OFrkt01dpCu1IMvpCb3iFIfb5fXmJlpuqqy5lY fMHhsrh3A==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-75.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.75]:61281 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1clzqr-0006NT-R1; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 15:19:37 +0000 In-Reply-To: <9ifuin8298.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:09:39 -0500") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130372 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > FWIW I think the point here is that "here's the ftp server, you figure > out which file you need" is now archaic. The new thing is A Big > Button that you press that defaults to the "right" file for you, and a > small "other versions" link. See eg firefox.com. > > Also, one normally skips to the end to get the latest version, but on > ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows, "emacs-25.1-2" sorts before "emacs-25.1", > which doesn't help. > > Perhaps MS Windows users are additionally confused to not get an .exe > file that they Just Click to start installing. There's a 200 line README > file that explains what to do, but no-one reads the README. :) All valid points. I'm not a fan of the windows distribution mechanism, and think it is too complicated. Phil