From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26024: Help with download... Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:09:39 -0500 Message-ID: <9ifuin8298.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87shmo2bag.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834lz3gm23.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489036214 24317 195.159.176.226 (9 Mar 2017 05:10:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 05:10:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: 26024@debbugs.gnu.org, Christopher Smith , phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 09 06:10:07 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clqKx-0005IE-O0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 06:10:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60459 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clqL3-0008Uc-Jt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:10:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39997) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clqKx-0008UW-Px for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:10:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clqKw-0000Ld-Qh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:10:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:48775) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clqKw-0000LZ-NH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clqKw-0005oF-Dy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:10:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 05:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26024 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26024-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26024.148903619622315 (code B ref 26024); Thu, 09 Mar 2017 05:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26024) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2017 05:09:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46974 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clqKq-0005nr-4F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:09:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48994) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clqKn-0005nZ-Me for 26024@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:09:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clqKh-0000Jp-EL for 26024@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:09:48 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41272) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clqKc-0000JO-10; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:09:42 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1clqKZ-0005pY-Fe; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:09:39 -0500 X-Spook: Gangs Agriculture Infection distributed denial of service X-Ran: =bMQahU5#w\bfa(rc0nUH7p=SX]D:"OZ-zF#i:o;q2"Wk^uSvmVquS.VVB&U~wfM{;KSHd X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <834lz3gm23.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 09 Mar 2017 05:34:44 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130365 Archived-At: FWIW I think the point here is that "here's the ftp server, you figure out which file you need" is now archaic. The new thing is A Big Button that you press that defaults to the "right" file for you, and a small "other versions" link. See eg firefox.com. Also, one normally skips to the end to get the latest version, but on ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows, "emacs-25.1-2" sorts before "emacs-25.1", which doesn't help. Perhaps MS Windows users are additionally confused to not get an .exe file that they Just Click to start installing. There's a 200 line README file that explains what to do, but no-one reads the README. :)