From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
35564@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#35564: [PATCH v5] Tweak dired warning about "wildcard" characters
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 22:29:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eeyf3bg1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87imogtqjh.fsf@gmail.com> ("Kévin Le Gouguec"'s message of "Tue, 22 Oct 2019 23:22:18 +0200")
> Going over for bug#28969 and bug#35564, here are the
> discussion points I could identify:
It seems all these points are resolved now:
> - y-or-n-p propertizing its prompt rigidly: out of scope, since we use
> read-multiple-choice now.
y-or-n-p doesn't propertize its prompt rigidly now, but indeed this is
out of scope when using read-char-from-minibuffer.
> - The prompt getting too long: it's now much shorter than the
> four(!)-line version I came up with in v4; it concisely spells out the
> issue (some characters will not be substituted) and invites the user
> to ask for more details if needed.
Please use a shorter prompt like
1 occurrence of ‘?’ will not be substituted. Proceed? (y, n or ?)
> - Asking the user whether they'd like to actually substitute these
> characters: out of scope; not sure it's necessary, since the new
> "details" buffer explains how to work around this for '?' (using
> backquotes).
Displaying the new "Dired help" buffer on demand is a good idea.
> - Ensuring accessibility: users who cannot distinguish the 'warning'
> face are now invited to add optional '^' markers.
In the new "Dired help" buffer where there is enough space to add
the command line with '^' markers.
> - Preventing '`' being linked to the backquote macro in the docstring
> for dired-do-shell-command: still no idea how to fix that, but that
> can be investigated independently.
Maybe use double quotes "`" as an exception.
> Here are some remaining issues I can think of:
>
> - The code that toggles the '^' markers does not check that the command
> is not wrapped/truncated (i.e. that the window is wide enough).
Everything should be explained in the new "Dired help" buffer
including the command line with '^' markers.
> - The details window might not be tall enough, in which case maybe I
> should add [f]orward-/[b]ackward-page actions like nsm.el does.
Yesterday I added new keybindings C-v/M-v for scrolling the original
window from the minibuffer.
> - In dired--no-subst-confirm, I did my best to make the window-popping
> dance as graceful as possible (unwind-protect so that the details
> buffer is killed even after C-g, save-window-excursion to restore the
> window configuration…), but maybe it falls apart in cases I haven't
> considered.
Maybe some of the standard display-window functions can handle this,
but this is a minor question.
> - UI bikeshedding: maybe drop the leading "Warning:"
Right, this makes the prompt shorter.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-10 20:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-04 18:01 bug#35564: 27.0.50; [PATCH] Tweak dired-do-shell-command warning about "wildcard" characters Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-05 8:44 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-06 19:40 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-07 8:15 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-07 13:19 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-08 20:42 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-08 22:39 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-09 8:13 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-09 14:17 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-09 17:51 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-09 20:04 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-09 11:08 ` bug#35564: [PATCH v2] Tweak dired " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-12 12:23 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-12 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 6:19 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-13 7:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 16:53 ` npostavs
2019-06-18 8:52 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-19 0:12 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-26 6:16 ` bug#35564: [PATCH v3] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-26 13:27 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-27 5:58 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-26 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-27 6:15 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-27 23:31 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-28 6:15 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-28 15:35 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-28 17:58 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-28 18:43 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-29 13:48 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-29 14:30 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-29 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-03 19:47 ` bug#35564: [PATCH v4] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-12 15:10 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-27 17:26 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 22:22 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-29 3:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-29 18:11 ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-29 19:01 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-02 5:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-08-08 10:40 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-08 21:06 ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-09 12:43 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-09 18:03 ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-15 20:56 ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-19 4:55 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 22:03 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-27 23:32 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 23:41 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-10-10 18:45 ` bug#35564: [PATCH v5] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-22 15:10 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-22 16:58 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-22 21:32 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-10 20:29 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2019-11-14 7:02 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-16 20:23 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-22 20:43 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-22 21:11 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-27 21:40 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-30 21:59 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-04 6:36 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-05 22:22 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-07 22:17 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-10 20:18 ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-18 7:11 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-19 22:01 ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-20 8:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-20 20:34 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-21 7:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-22 16:02 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-20 20:43 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-21 7:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 11:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-20 12:04 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-20 12:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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