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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
	35564@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#35564: [PATCH v5] Tweak dired warning about "wildcard" characters
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 22:29:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eeyf3bg1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87imogtqjh.fsf@gmail.com> ("Kévin Le Gouguec"'s message of "Tue, 22 Oct 2019 23:22:18 +0200")

> Going over for bug#28969 and bug#35564, here are the
> discussion points I could identify:

It seems all these points are resolved now:

> - y-or-n-p propertizing its prompt rigidly: out of scope, since we use
>   read-multiple-choice now.

y-or-n-p doesn't propertize its prompt rigidly now, but indeed this is
out of scope when using read-char-from-minibuffer.

> - The prompt getting too long: it's now much shorter than the
>   four(!)-line version I came up with in v4; it concisely spells out the
>   issue (some characters will not be substituted) and invites the user
>   to ask for more details if needed.

Please use a shorter prompt like

  1 occurrence of ‘?’ will not be substituted.  Proceed? (y, n or ?) 

> - Asking the user whether they'd like to actually substitute these
>   characters: out of scope; not sure it's necessary, since the new
>   "details" buffer explains how to work around this for '?' (using
>   backquotes).

Displaying the new "Dired help" buffer on demand is a good idea.

> - Ensuring accessibility: users who cannot distinguish the 'warning'
>   face are now invited to add optional '^' markers.

In the new "Dired help" buffer where there is enough space to add
the command line with '^' markers.

> - Preventing '`' being linked to the backquote macro in the docstring
>   for dired-do-shell-command: still no idea how to fix that, but that
>   can be investigated independently.

Maybe use double quotes "`" as an exception.

> Here are some remaining issues I can think of:
>
> - The code that toggles the '^' markers does not check that the command
>   is not wrapped/truncated (i.e. that the window is wide enough).

Everything should be explained in the new "Dired help" buffer
including the command line with '^' markers.

> - The details window might not be tall enough, in which case maybe I
>   should add [f]orward-/[b]ackward-page actions like nsm.el does.

Yesterday I added new keybindings C-v/M-v for scrolling the original
window from the minibuffer.

> - In dired--no-subst-confirm, I did my best to make the window-popping
>   dance as graceful as possible (unwind-protect so that the details
>   buffer is killed even after C-g, save-window-excursion to restore the
>   window configuration…), but maybe it falls apart in cases I haven't
>   considered.

Maybe some of the standard display-window functions can handle this,
but this is a minor question.

> - UI bikeshedding: maybe drop the leading "Warning:"

Right, this makes the prompt shorter.





  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-10 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-04 18:01 bug#35564: 27.0.50; [PATCH] Tweak dired-do-shell-command warning about "wildcard" characters Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-05  8:44 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-06 19:40   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-07  8:15     ` martin rudalics
2019-05-07 13:19       ` Drew Adams
2019-05-08 20:42         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-08 22:39           ` Drew Adams
2019-05-09  8:13           ` martin rudalics
2019-05-09 14:17             ` Drew Adams
2019-05-09 17:51               ` martin rudalics
2019-05-09 20:04                 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-09 11:08 ` bug#35564: [PATCH v2] Tweak dired " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-12 12:23   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-12 14:29     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13  6:19     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-13  7:58       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 16:53       ` npostavs
2019-06-18  8:52         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-19  0:12           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-26  6:16   ` bug#35564: [PATCH v3] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-26 13:27     ` Drew Adams
2019-06-27  5:58       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-26 14:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-27  6:15       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-27 23:31     ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-28  6:15       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-28 15:35         ` Drew Adams
2019-06-28 17:58           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-28 18:43             ` Drew Adams
2019-06-29 13:48               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-29 14:30                 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-29 14:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-03 19:47     ` bug#35564: [PATCH v4] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-12 15:10       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 11:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-27 17:26           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 22:22             ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-29  3:29               ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-29 18:11                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-29 19:01                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-02  5:26                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-08-08 10:40                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-08 21:06                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-09 12:43                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-09 18:03                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-15 20:56                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-19  4:55                             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 22:03           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-27 23:32             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 23:41               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-10-10 18:45       ` bug#35564: [PATCH v5] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-22 15:10         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-22 16:58           ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-22 21:32             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-10 20:29               ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2019-11-14  7:02                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-16 20:23                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-22 20:43           ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-22 21:11             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-27 21:40               ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-30 21:59                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-04  6:36                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-05 22:22                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-07 22:17                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-10 20:18                         ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-18  7:11         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-19 22:01           ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-20  8:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-20 20:34               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-21  7:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-22 16:02                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-20 20:43             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-21  7:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 11:42                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-20 12:04                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-20 12:18                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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