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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
	35564@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	npostavs@gmail.com
Subject: bug#35564: [PATCH v4] Tweak dired warning about "wildcard" characters
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 21:03:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wofm8bcq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k1bmfr1b.fsf@gmail.com> ("Kévin Le Gouguec"'s message of "Fri, 09 Aug 2019 14:43:12 +0200")

>> 2. The current question is too ambiguous:
>>
>>   Confirm--do you mean to use ‘?’ as a wildcard? (y or n)
>>
>> A wildcard can mean both dired substitution and shell substitution.
>> A better question should use the same terms as documented in the
>> docstring of `dired-do-shell-command', i.e. "marked files", "file list".
>> So a better question would be:
>>
>>   Confirm--do you mean to substitute ‘?’ with marked files? (y or n)
>>
>> Or something similar that makes clear that substitution applies
>> to dired files, not files matched by shell.
>
> Mmm, I think that the current prompt *does* use the same terms as
> documented in the docstring: it simply mistakenly assumes that if '?'
> and '*' are not "isolated", the shell will unconditionally process them
> as wildcards.  It is a heuristic that fails to consider that '?' and '*'
> may be quoted or escaped.

Do you mean this case: despite that the docstring of
`dired-do-shell-command' mentions "a shell wildcard",
typing on a file:

  ! cat '*'

and confirming with `y':

  Confirm--do you mean to use ‘*’ as a wildcard? (y or n) y

still doesn't use * as "a shell wildcard".  Then I agree.

>> As was already discussed in this thread, using (:inherit '(warning underline))
>> will solve this problem and improve accessibility.  So there will be
>> no need in multi-line prompt when using underline face attribute.
>
> Mmm.  I went to a TTY to check how (:inherit '(underline)) looks.  Since
> (display-supports-face-attributes-p '(:underline t)) is nil there, the
> "underline" face is defined as (:weight bold), which merely makes the
> foreground color brighter.  So (:inherit '(warning underline)) amounts
> to just (:inherit '(warning)).
>
> Perhaps (display-supports-face-attributes-p '(:underline t)) can be used
> to decide whether we need to add ^ markers.

You can check all possible face attributes to find the one
available on tty: underline, weight: bold, inverse-video, ...





  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-09 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-04 18:01 bug#35564: 27.0.50; [PATCH] Tweak dired-do-shell-command warning about "wildcard" characters Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-05  8:44 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-06 19:40   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-07  8:15     ` martin rudalics
2019-05-07 13:19       ` Drew Adams
2019-05-08 20:42         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-08 22:39           ` Drew Adams
2019-05-09  8:13           ` martin rudalics
2019-05-09 14:17             ` Drew Adams
2019-05-09 17:51               ` martin rudalics
2019-05-09 20:04                 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-09 11:08 ` bug#35564: [PATCH v2] Tweak dired " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-12 12:23   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-12 14:29     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13  6:19     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-13  7:58       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 16:53       ` npostavs
2019-06-18  8:52         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-19  0:12           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-26  6:16   ` bug#35564: [PATCH v3] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-26 13:27     ` Drew Adams
2019-06-27  5:58       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-26 14:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-27  6:15       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-27 23:31     ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-28  6:15       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-28 15:35         ` Drew Adams
2019-06-28 17:58           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-28 18:43             ` Drew Adams
2019-06-29 13:48               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-29 14:30                 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-29 14:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-03 19:47     ` bug#35564: [PATCH v4] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-12 15:10       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 11:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-27 17:26           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 22:22             ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-29  3:29               ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-29 18:11                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-29 19:01                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-02  5:26                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-08-08 10:40                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-08 21:06                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-09 12:43                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-09 18:03                           ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2019-08-15 20:56                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-19  4:55                             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 22:03           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-27 23:32             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 23:41               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-10-10 18:45       ` bug#35564: [PATCH v5] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-22 15:10         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-22 16:58           ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-22 21:32             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-10 20:29               ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-14  7:02                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-16 20:23                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-22 20:43           ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-22 21:11             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-27 21:40               ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-30 21:59                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-04  6:36                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-05 22:22                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-07 22:17                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-10 20:18                         ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-18  7:11         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-19 22:01           ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-20  8:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-20 20:34               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-21  7:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-22 16:02                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-20 20:43             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-21  7:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 11:42                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-20 12:04                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-20 12:18                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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