From: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>, martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 35564@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35564: 27.0.50; [PATCH] Tweak dired-do-shell-command warning about "wildcard" characters
Date: Wed, 08 May 2019 22:42:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877eb0ptiy.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9fc1129c-5377-4b56-ba6d-dce497140941@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 7 May 2019 06:19:10 -0700 (PDT)")
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> I don't see any good reason why face `minibuffer-prompt'
> should be used, especially by default (users can do
> whatever they like) for situations where there is no
> active minibuffer, i.e., for prompting situations
> generally. It should instead serve as a useful clue
> that the minibuffer is being used. (Just one opinion.)
I'd hazard a guess[1] that this was done to make y-or-n-p and
yes-or-no-p similar from a UI point of view: they both prompt the user
for a binary answer, therefore the prompt might as well look the same in
both situations.
From what I can tell the use of 'minibuffer-prompt' in minibuffer-less
situations has enough precedents (the "other clients" Martin mentions)
that the "minibuffer-" prefix might be considered a historical accident
by now…
(Perhaps those clients could be migrated to a new face,
e.g. 'message-prompt', which would inherit 'minibuffer-prompt' by
default?)
martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:
> So although I'd vote for a solution like the one you propose in your
> patch, any decision in this area is subtle and should be approved by
> others first. Also because we'd then have to decide what to do with
> other clients of the 'minibuffer-prompt' face like 'read-char-choice'
> or the ones in isearch.el.
Fair enough. Should I raise the issue on emacs-devel, or create a new
bug report? Just to make sure I am not omitting something, is this how
you would sum up the issue?
- In the context of bug#35564, I would like to add text properties to
the y-or-n-p prompt (although I'm open to other, simpler solutions
e.g. simply changing Dired's message).
- While this can be patched within y-or-n-p and we can call it a day,
the minibuffer-prompt-face-adding code could be factored out of
'read_minibuf'.
- This raises two questions:
1. Do we actually want to use the 'minibuffer-prompt' face in this
context, since the minibuffer is not involved?
2. What do we do with other clients of 'minibuffer-prompt', which
use the same (propertize prompt 'face 'minibuffer-prompt) idiom?
Thank you both for your thoughts on this.
[1] AFAICT, the commit that added this face (927be33, back when y-or-n-p
was still a C function) does not say why this was thought to be a
good idea.
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-04 18:01 bug#35564: 27.0.50; [PATCH] Tweak dired-do-shell-command warning about "wildcard" characters Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-05 8:44 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-06 19:40 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-07 8:15 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-07 13:19 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-08 20:42 ` Kévin Le Gouguec [this message]
2019-05-08 22:39 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-09 8:13 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-09 14:17 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-09 17:51 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-09 20:04 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-09 11:08 ` bug#35564: [PATCH v2] Tweak dired " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-12 12:23 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-12 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 6:19 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-13 7:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 16:53 ` npostavs
2019-06-18 8:52 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-19 0:12 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-26 6:16 ` bug#35564: [PATCH v3] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-26 13:27 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-27 5:58 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-26 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-27 6:15 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-27 23:31 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-28 6:15 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-28 15:35 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-28 17:58 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-06-28 18:43 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-29 13:48 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-29 14:30 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-29 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-03 19:47 ` bug#35564: [PATCH v4] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-12 15:10 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-27 17:26 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 22:22 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-29 3:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-29 18:11 ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-29 19:01 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-02 5:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-08-08 10:40 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-08 21:06 ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-09 12:43 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-08-09 18:03 ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-15 20:56 ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-19 4:55 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 22:03 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-27 23:32 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-07-27 23:41 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-10-10 18:45 ` bug#35564: [PATCH v5] " Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-22 15:10 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-22 16:58 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-22 21:32 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-10 20:29 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-14 7:02 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-16 20:23 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-22 20:43 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-22 21:11 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-27 21:40 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-30 21:59 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-04 6:36 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-11-05 22:22 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-07 22:17 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-10 20:18 ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-18 7:11 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-19 22:01 ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-20 8:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-20 20:34 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-21 7:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-22 16:02 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-20 20:43 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-21 7:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 11:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-20 12:04 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-20 12:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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