From: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>
To: Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Telemetry on by default kitty
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 15:04:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YMZWrBExKQSfoWNa@jasmine.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <05c05536dde5660ada17b9f4dc8dc041272c1a4a.camel@student.tugraz.at>
On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 08:35:18PM +0200, Leo Prikler wrote:
> Perhaps it's valuable for developers, but as a user I often have next
> to no information about what data gets collected and for which purpose,
> both of which are important for *informed consent*. If "the masses"
> don't really care about the data being collected and would rather see
> improvements on their software, they are free to enable telemetry –
> that's what opt-in is for – but my personal opinion on this is that
> you're going to have a hard time convincing people, that you actually
> only collect reasonable amounts and use them with respect for privacy
> rights.
Yeah, I agree that telemetry is a problem in addition to being valuable
for developers.
I think that making it opt-in doesn't really help very much. People use
defaults. I read that Firefox struggles with software quality on
GNU/Linux because almost nobody enables the telemetry.
I feel that, ultimately, we already trust most software authors
implicitly and totally, because we are not auditing their programs. So,
I am personally happy to enable the telemetry for most software I use —
especially if it is free software and especially for software that deals
with the network. I don't personally see the point of treating telemetry
as a special case in terms of trust or consent.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-13 19:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-12 20:18 Telemetry on by default kitty Bone Baboon
2021-06-12 20:35 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-06-12 21:28 ` Bone Baboon
2021-06-12 21:44 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-06-12 23:12 ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-12 23:14 ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-13 1:32 ` Mark H Weaver
2021-06-13 14:16 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-06-13 2:03 ` Bone Baboon
2021-06-13 9:32 ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-13 17:57 ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-13 18:35 ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-13 19:04 ` Leo Famulari [this message]
2021-06-13 23:54 ` Ryan Prior
2021-06-14 6:53 ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-14 21:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-15 17:24 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2021-06-15 21:39 ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-16 16:21 ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-16 17:32 ` Mark H Weaver
2021-06-16 17:32 ` my apoligies (was Re: Telemetry on by default kitty) Giovanni Biscuolo
2021-06-16 18:27 ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-16 22:54 ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-20 15:50 ` Telemetry on by default kitty Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-15 23:07 ` Mark H Weaver
2021-06-16 5:28 ` Jack Hill
2021-07-06 12:52 ` Bone Baboon
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