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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
To: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>,
	Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Telemetry on by default kitty
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:32:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871r91n2a8.fsf@netris.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YMok7+nguG4OJuKW@jasmine.lan>

Hi Leo,

Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes:

> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 11:39:59PM +0200, Leo Prikler wrote:
>> Am Dienstag, den 15.06.2021, 19:24 +0200 schrieb Giovanni Biscuolo:
>> > I'm sorry you don't see the point, but 
>
> Good grief...
>
>> Might be just me, but this phrasing appears a little aggressive given
>> the overall tone of the message being… a little less so.
>
> Yeah, indeed.
>
> Giovanni, please consider that I might "see the point" but I instead
> reached a different conclusion, because I have different values and
> preferences than you.

I guess you feel offended that Giovanni implied that you don't "see the
point".  There's just one problem: those were the _exact_ words that
_you_ used to describe yourself.

Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote:
> I don't personally see the point
> of treating telemetry as a special case in terms of trust or consent.

Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu> replied (after quoting the words above):
> I'm sorry you don't see the point, but please remember [...]

and now you respond with indignation: "please consider that I might
'see the point'".

You are contradicting yourself.  First you say that you don't "see the
point", then you are offended that Giovanni implies that you don't "see
the point" and ask him to consider that you _might_ "see the point".
You can't have it both ways.

In my opinion, here you are being far more aggressive in your tone
policing than Giovanni has ever been on this list.

       Mark

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-16 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-12 20:18 Telemetry on by default kitty Bone Baboon
2021-06-12 20:35 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-06-12 21:28   ` Bone Baboon
2021-06-12 21:44     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-06-12 23:12       ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-12 23:14         ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-13  1:32         ` Mark H Weaver
2021-06-13 14:16           ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-06-13  2:03         ` Bone Baboon
2021-06-13  9:32           ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-13 17:57             ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-13 18:35               ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-13 19:04                 ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-13 23:54                   ` Ryan Prior
2021-06-14  6:53                     ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-14 21:15                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-15 17:24                   ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2021-06-15 21:39                     ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-16 16:21                       ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-16 17:32                         ` Mark H Weaver [this message]
2021-06-16 17:32                         ` my apoligies (was Re: Telemetry on by default kitty) Giovanni Biscuolo
2021-06-16 18:27                           ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-16 22:54                           ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-20 15:50                     ` Telemetry on by default kitty Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-15 23:07                   ` Mark H Weaver
2021-06-16  5:28                     ` Jack Hill
2021-07-06 12:52         ` Bone Baboon

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