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From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@reproducible-builds.org>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>, help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to present Guix to a wider audience
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:07:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2u98tv1.fsf@yucca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874kwyp9hi.fsf@ambrevar.xyz>

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On 2020-01-14, Pierre Neidhardt wrote:
> I just wrote a short draft which hopefully should explain in layman
> terms why Guix matters.

Thanks, it's a nice read!


> * Open source is not enough
>
> We might be tempted to think that free open source software gives us
> transparency about what's in the application.  While the compiled application we
...
> In practice this means that it's almost always impossible to /reproduce/ the
> exact same compiled application that is offered for download.

I object a bit to "almost always impossible" :P

There are a number of projects that have achieved reproducibility for a
majority of the distributed software, including small to large-sized
distributions. Even a few small projects that manage 100%
reproducibility.

How about "often difficult" instead?


> * Trust all the way
>
> To sum up, we need the following properties in order to be able to trust
> computer software:
...
> - Separate multi-user application collections: on a multi-user system, every
>   user can install their favourite applications independently.  Applications
>   don't "pollute" the other user sessions.

I wonder if most people even undertsand the concept of a multi-user
system all that well? might be worth leaving out to keep the talking
points short...


> * Can everyone use Guix?
...
> More work needs to be done in terms of accessibility and easy of use so that the
> less technically-minded among us can also enjoy Guix some day.  Then, hopefully,
> we will find Guix preinstalled on computers, ready for everyone to use.

"easy of use" -> "ease of use"


live well,
  vagrant

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-01-15  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-02 10:03 How to present Guix to a wider audience Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-02 18:18 ` zimoun
2020-01-08 15:33   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-08 16:32     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-08 20:18     ` zimoun
     [not found]       ` <24DdUL_0dCHlf-Jsotb_z0Mxz7kuUpI_FeBoRrbgJUypYRxvic9u3GhPfBwAiz5ZGjRxITivscu59w_-BPA2cIY_wSbypis89M7Jb8AglBM=@protonmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <CAJ3okZ1CQ1zvbHnFT6EmB+yYFwcAszZ0baroyj03LzTK7AhBXw@mail.gmail.com>
2020-01-10  9:52           ` wisdomlight--- via
2020-01-10 12:19             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-02 19:20 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-08 15:26   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 11:23 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 15:58   ` Jack Hill
2020-01-14 17:00     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 21:01       ` Jack Hill
2020-01-14 23:44   ` Dimakakos Dimos
2020-01-15  0:07   ` Vagrant Cascadian [this message]
2020-01-15  8:52     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15  0:20   ` Josh
2020-01-15  8:57     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15  5:59   ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-15  8:53     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15  8:59   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 17:44     ` sirgazil
2020-01-19 11:03       ` Todor Kondić
2020-01-19 15:57         ` wisdomlight
2020-01-21 21:49   ` ndre
2020-01-22 11:00     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-22 17:35       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-23 14:44         ` Kelsang Sherab
2020-01-23 21:25           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-11  7:45   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-11 17:38     ` Josh Marshall

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