From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Vagrant Cascadian Subject: Re: How to present Guix to a wider audience Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:07:46 -0800 Message-ID: <87y2u98tv1.fsf@yucca> References: <878smq41kg.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <874kwyp9hi.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44894) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1irWDy-0005B9-3k for help-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:07:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1irWDx-0002fz-1h for help-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:07:53 -0500 Received: from cascadia.aikidev.net ([2600:3c01:e000:267:0:a171:de7:c]:38900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1irWDw-0002dZ-SX for help-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:07:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874kwyp9hi.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Pierre Neidhardt , help-guix@gnu.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On 2020-01-14, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > I just wrote a short draft which hopefully should explain in layman > terms why Guix matters. Thanks, it's a nice read! > * Open source is not enough > > We might be tempted to think that free open source software gives us > transparency about what's in the application. While the compiled application we ... > In practice this means that it's almost always impossible to /reproduce/ the > exact same compiled application that is offered for download. I object a bit to "almost always impossible" :P There are a number of projects that have achieved reproducibility for a majority of the distributed software, including small to large-sized distributions. Even a few small projects that manage 100% reproducibility. How about "often difficult" instead? > * Trust all the way > > To sum up, we need the following properties in order to be able to trust > computer software: ... > - Separate multi-user application collections: on a multi-user system, every > user can install their favourite applications independently. Applications > don't "pollute" the other user sessions. I wonder if most people even undertsand the concept of a multi-user system all that well? might be worth leaving out to keep the talking points short... > * Can everyone use Guix? ... > More work needs to be done in terms of accessibility and easy of use so that the > less technically-minded among us can also enjoy Guix some day. Then, hopefully, > we will find Guix preinstalled on computers, ready for everyone to use. "easy of use" -> "ease of use" live well, vagrant --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRlgHNhO/zFx+LkXUXcUY/If5cWqgUCXh5X0gAKCRDcUY/If5cW qlDkAP0TrqTzX2BoSK+z7cm7XUapOz30E4+sQIPcsslwjqaODQD8Dk2kJBKWDR3E t23LXbRL5qLwW66VA1gTgtVsZDuHVwg= =4xbm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--