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From: Andy Wingo <wingo@igalia.com>
To: John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: grammar usage
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:28:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k27om9bj.fsf@igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170317111236.GA27220@jocasta.intra> (John Darrington's message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:12:36 +0100")

Hi,

I agree that we need to drop this subject.  This will be my last mail in
this thread as well.

On Fri 17 Mar 2017 12:12, John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> writes:

> Sometime ago, due to a misunderstanding I received a series of emails
> addressing me as Frau Darrington.  I did not feel offended or insulted
> at all, and I cannot imagine anyone would feel that way.

I understand you feel this way, however to others the effect is
important.  To trans and non-binary people, being at the receiving end
of a stream of misgenderings (intentional or not) is a constant
irritation, reminding them that they are not welcome in that part of the
world.  We want Guix to be welcoming to everyone, so we should be
attentive to hints about what pronoun people would like others to use
when referring to them.

> Why is it only advocacy of *my* opinion which is unwelcome whereas
> that of others is perfectly acceptable?  I feel that I am being
> victimised here.

To create a welcoming environment for more people and especially people
who are marginalized, we must make some behaviors unwelcome.  In this
case, advocating this opinion of what is correct English contributes to
the marginalization of trans and non-binary people, and for that reason
I think it is appropriate for the Guix project to discourage this
behavior in its spaces.

Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-17 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-17 16:37 [PATCH 0/2] Openssh service patches Clément Lassieur
2017-02-17 16:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] services: openssh: Use PAM in sshd by default Clément Lassieur
2017-02-17 16:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] services: openssh: remove deprecated 'RSAAuthentication' option Clément Lassieur
2017-02-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 0/2] Openssh service patches ng0
2017-02-17 17:45   ` Julien Lepiller
2017-02-18 11:46     ` [PATCH 1/2] services: openssh: Enable PAM Clément Lassieur
2017-02-18 11:46       ` [PATCH 2/2] services: openssh: Remove deprecated 'RSAAuthentication' option Clément Lassieur
2017-02-18 15:43         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-18 18:32           ` Clément Lassieur
2017-02-19 18:54             ` ng0
2017-02-20 23:53               ` [PATCH 0/4] Openssh service patches Clément Lassieur
2017-02-20 23:53                 ` [PATCH 1/4] services: openssh: Enable PAM Clément Lassieur
2017-02-22  9:22                   ` Clément Lassieur
2017-02-22 21:07                     ` [PATCH] " Clément Lassieur
2017-03-02  7:34                       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-02-20 23:53                 ` [PATCH 2/4] services: openssh: Remove deprecated options Clément Lassieur
2017-03-02  7:45                   ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-02-20 23:53                 ` [PATCH 3/4] services: openssh: Fix 'PrintLastLog' default behaviour Clément Lassieur
2017-03-02  7:37                   ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-03-02 21:03                     ` Clément Lassieur
2017-03-02 21:06                       ` [PATCH 1/3] services: openssh: Enable PAM Clément Lassieur
2017-03-02 21:06                         ` [PATCH 2/3] services: openssh: Remove deprecated options Clément Lassieur
2017-03-03 10:16                           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-03-09 22:37                             ` Leo Famulari
2017-03-02 21:06                         ` [PATCH 3/3] services: openssh: Fix 'PrintLastLog' default behaviour Clément Lassieur
2017-03-03 10:19                           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-03-09 22:37                             ` Leo Famulari
2017-03-03 10:16                         ` [PATCH 1/3] services: openssh: Enable PAM Danny Milosavljevic
2017-03-09 22:37                           ` Leo Famulari
2017-03-10 18:25                         ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-02-20 23:53                 ` [PATCH 4/4] services: openssh: Add 'subsystems' option Clément Lassieur
2017-03-02  7:44                   ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-03-02 21:00                     ` Clément Lassieur
2017-03-05 14:50                       ` ng0
2017-03-07 20:49                         ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-03-07 21:01                           ` Clément Lassieur
2017-03-16 10:03                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-16 20:45                               ` ng0
2017-03-16 20:50                                 ` Clément Lassieur
2017-03-17  5:36                                 ` John Darrington
2017-03-17 11:08                                   ` grammar usage (was: Re: [PATCH 4/4] services: openssh: Add 'subsystems' option.) ng0
2017-03-17 10:28                                     ` John Darrington
2017-03-17 10:42                                       ` ng0
2017-03-17 10:47                                         ` John Darrington
2017-03-17 10:57                                       ` grammar usage Andy Wingo
2017-03-17 11:12                                         ` John Darrington
2017-03-17 11:28                                           ` Andy Wingo [this message]
2017-03-17 13:58                                             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-03-17 14:13                                               ` John Darrington
2017-03-17 16:43                                               ` Mathieu Lirzin
2017-03-18 13:52                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-17 11:31                                           ` ng0
2017-03-17 16:13                                   ` grammar usage (was: Re: [PATCH 4/4] services: openssh: Add 'subsystems' option.) Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2017-03-17 17:50                                     ` John Darrington
2017-03-17 16:21                                   ` [PATCH 4/4] services: openssh: Add 'subsystems' option Leo Famulari
2017-03-17 17:58                                     ` John Darrington
2017-03-18 11:09                                       ` ng0
2017-03-18 11:45                                         ` Mathieu Lirzin
2017-03-18 11:52                                           ` ng0
2017-03-18 12:10                                             ` John Darrington
2017-03-18 12:17                                               ` Catonano
2017-03-18 12:28                                           ` Catonano
2017-03-18 13:43                                         ` Being excellent to one another Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-19 15:47                                           ` dian_cecht
2017-03-19 16:33                                             ` John Darrington
2017-03-19 21:21                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-19 22:40                                           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-03-20  2:57                                             ` dian_cecht
2017-03-20  6:36                                               ` John Darrington
2017-03-20  8:57                                                 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2017-03-20  9:54                                                   ` John Darrington
2017-03-20 10:17                                                     ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2017-03-20 10:44                                                       ` John Darrington
2017-03-20 11:08                                                         ` Catonano
2017-03-20 11:21                                                         ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2017-03-20 11:53                                                           ` Pjotr Prins
2017-03-20 12:12                                                             ` ng0
2017-03-20 12:12                                                             ` John Darrington
2017-03-20 12:10                                                           ` John Darrington
2017-03-20 14:27                                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-20 14:40                                                               ` John Darrington
2017-03-20 23:54                                                       ` dian_cecht
2017-03-21  8:50                                                         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-03-20 11:02                                                 ` Catonano
2017-03-20 15:09                                                 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-03-20 15:17                                                   ` John Darrington
2017-03-20 15:49                                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-20 17:12                                                       ` John Darrington
2017-03-21  9:14                                                         ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2017-03-21 10:02                                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2017-03-21 12:07                                                           ` John Darrington
2017-03-21 12:17                                                             ` ng0
2017-03-21 12:26                                                               ` John Darrington
2017-03-21 12:36                                                                 ` ng0
2017-03-21 12:38                                                                   ` ng0
2017-03-21 14:50                                                         ` [EOT] " Ricardo Wurmus
2017-03-19 16:50                               ` [PATCH 4/4] services: openssh: Add 'subsystems' option Clément Lassieur
2017-03-21  0:17                           ` Clément Lassieur
2017-02-18 15:45         ` [PATCH 2/2] services: openssh: Remove deprecated 'RSAAuthentication' option Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-18 18:07           ` Clément Lassieur
2017-02-18 11:47     ` [PATCH 0/2] Openssh service patches Clément Lassieur

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