torbrowser

torbrowser

[Gottfried]

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Hi Guix,

I saw that you offer "torbrowser" as a own package.

Does that mean there is a new browser, and it is the torbrowser.

What is then the difference between icecat working over the torbrowser 
and the torbrowser itself?

Is it so that in icecat I can install several add-ons, but in torbrowser 
no ones or only some? Is that the main difference.

Sorry, for asking basic questions.
I prefer to ask instead of guessing.


Kind regards

Gottfried

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Re: torbrowser

[Clément Lassieur]

Hi,

On Thu, Dec 28 2023, Gottfried wrote:

> I saw that you offer "torbrowser" as a own package.
>
> Does that mean there is a new browser, and it is the torbrowser.

Yes, it is a new browser, the Tor Browser.

> What is then the difference between icecat working over the torbrowser and the
> torbrowser itself?

I guess you meant "icecat working over tor".

The difference is that a site can identify you based on your browser
settings easily if your browser is Icecat, whereas it's much harder if
it's Tor Browser.  You can check https://coveryourtracks.eff.org to see
if browser settings make you unique.

(Also Tor Browser makes it easy to start the Tor network.)

> Is it so that in icecat I can install several add-ons, but in torbrowser no
> ones or only some? Is that the main difference.

You can install add-ons on both browser, although it's discouraged to do
so with Tor Browser because add-ons can increase your footprint and thus
reduce your online anonymity.

> Sorry, for asking basic questions.
> I prefer to ask instead of guessing.

No problem, feel free to ask anything.

Clément

EFF [was: torbrowser]

[Felix Lechner via]

Hi,

On Thu, Dec 28 2023, Clément Lassieur wrote:

> You can check https://coveryourtracks.eff.org to see if browser
> settings make you unique.

I personally would be cautious with EFF going forward.

For over thirty years, EFF has meant a lot to me. That changed on
November 16, when I received a survey invite entitled "Help shape the
future of digital rights - participate in our community survey."

To my surprise, the questions were very personal. EFF asked for my age,
race, religion, gender identity, level of education, married status,
number of childen, and "all forms of income" including interest.

None of the items except gender identity offered a non-pushy option like
"prefer not to say."

By page 2 of 6, I found myself unwilling to complete the survey. Had I
fallen prey to a phishing attempt?

My confusion grew further when I noticed that I was on the website
forms.office.com. Would EFF really outsource the collection of my
personal data to Microsoft?

Appalled, I wrote to EFF.

Someone responded by stating that "Your Microsoft Forms survey
submission to us, should you choose to complete one, is not tied to a
unique identifier other than numbering your response. The data is
encrypted at rest by a key we control and Microsoft does not have access
to."

Looking at my browser's address bar, I noticed that the survey URL
appeared to include a personalized identifier in the parameters.

The message continued "Any personal data you share is protected in
keeping with our privacy policy (eff.org/policy) and Microsoft's service
agreement (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement)."

About five weeks later, I received a donation drive from the membership
department. It hit all the comfortable and familiar tunes that my
"rights need protection" and that "EFF is not messing around." They
assured me that "EFF has one guiding star: your freedom as a tech user."

I copied that message in below so everyone can see.

Then I cut all ties to EFF and unsubscribed from all their
communications.

Kind regards,
Felix

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Re: EFF [was: torbrowser]

[Clément Lassieur]

Hi,

On Thu, Dec 28 2023, Felix Lechner via wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Dec 28 2023, Clément Lassieur wrote:
>
>> You can check https://coveryourtracks.eff.org to see if browser
>> settings make you unique.
>
> I personally would be cautious with EFF going forward.

Thanks for telling us, I've just been told about
https://fingerprintjs.github.io/fingerprintjs/, which I'll use too from
now on.