From: Catonano <catonano@gmail.com>
To: myglc2 <myglc2@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: my latest blog post
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 10:07:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ98PDx7ZYSe=T0-0s3RfCPE3DFiEyYbt=rxqsdf+1OZ2UFrhw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87in6ra84f.fsf@g1.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
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2018-06-10 0:49 GMT+02:00 <myglc2@gmail.com>:
> On 06/07/2018 at 17:25 Catonano writes:
>
> > I just published my latest blog post
> >
> > In this post I discuss Guix
> >
> > And I discuss Guile too
> >
> > I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset
> >
> > But I feel this is due
> >
> > Happy reading
> >
> > http://catonano.v22018025836661967.nicesrv.de/the-gnu-community.html
>
> Hi Catonano,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to contribute your thoughts. I am sorry to
> see you getting so beat up by the responses. Unfortunately the
> nit-picking of criticisms and the "we are busy, why don't you dig in and
> fix it" responses occur too often on the Guix lists.
>
> Such responses are fundamentally unhelpful: A defensive response of
> counter-criticism that spirals out of control buries the original input
> and alienates potential new contributors. I agree with you that the
> suggestion that you dig in and fix something you are struggling with is
> a fundamentally unfriendly response.
>
> I appreciate the effort you made to learn Guix and the risk you took to
> report on the problems you experienced. I am interested in getting to
> the root causes of your frustration. I re-read your post and
> emails. Would it be fair to say ...
>
> 1) The monad/daemon/store is presented as central to Guix and is very
> difficult to understand. If a Guix user really needs to understand it,
> it needs to be explained better.
>
> 2) Sending Guix users upstream for Guile support is not working.
>
> If these are correct, the reality is that only a few people on the
> planet are in a position to address these issues. The rest of us have to
> hope that they can see why it is important to stop coding long enough to
> do so, perhaps in collaboration with a confused user or two ;-)
>
> - George
>
Thank you George, I appreciate this
I alredy had 2 people writing to me _in private_ acknowledging my efforts
I invited them to "come out" but they didn't
So much for Guile friendliness
People are scared to speak their minds
Now, don't worry I won't revelate who you are
I just want to record the sorry state of this community
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-07 15:25 my latest blog post Catonano
2018-06-07 16:28 ` Joshua Branson
2018-06-08 4:24 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-08 6:18 ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-08 14:02 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-08 8:25 ` Catonano
2018-06-08 13:51 ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-08 14:25 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 7:47 ` Catonano
2018-06-09 12:24 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 13:07 ` Catonano
2018-06-09 15:29 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-09 13:51 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-07 17:03 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-07 19:40 ` Catonano
2018-06-08 9:39 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-06-08 9:45 ` Catonano
2018-06-08 18:05 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-09 7:00 ` Catonano
2018-06-09 10:39 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 10:52 ` Catonano
2018-06-09 12:14 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 13:03 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 10:53 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-07 18:11 ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-06-07 21:45 ` Alex Vong
2018-06-08 9:15 ` Julien Lepiller
2018-06-08 9:34 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-06-08 9:45 ` Julien Lepiller
2018-06-08 13:50 ` Widen info Oleg Pykhalov
2018-06-08 13:59 ` Julien Lepiller
2018-06-08 13:49 ` my latest blog post Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-09 5:59 ` Catonano
2018-06-09 22:49 ` myglc2
2018-06-10 0:51 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-10 6:55 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-06-10 9:07 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 9:29 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-10 9:30 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 10:37 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-10 10:45 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-10 12:06 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-06-10 7:58 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 9:26 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-10 9:27 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 19:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-10 8:07 ` Catonano [this message]
2018-06-10 19:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-10 8:17 ` my latest blog post [everyone, please take a cooldown break] Nils Gillmann
2018-06-10 13:33 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-10 14:18 ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-06-10 14:37 ` Kei Kebreau
2018-06-11 6:01 ` swedebugia
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