unofficial mirror of guix-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Catonano <catonano@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: my latest blog post
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:49:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tvqdl76e.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ98PDwJOsxVCVGWWZOZsbY=PweLhQvmtFv8BWz4Oo5j+UVzkw@mail.gmail.com> (Catonano's message of "Thu, 7 Jun 2018 17:25:06 +0200")

Hello!

Catonano <catonano@gmail.com> skribis:

> In this post I discuss Guix
>
> And I discuss Guile too
>
> I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset
>
> But I feel this is due
>
> Happy reading
>
> http://catonano.v22018025836661967.nicesrv.de/the-gnu-community.html

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!  I pretty much agree with the kind
words about the Guix group. ;-)

I didn’t know (I suppose I didn’t pay attention) to what happened to you
in Guile land, and I’m sad you experienced it and felt bad about the
whole story.

I feel that “GNU is toxic” and “Guile is toxic” are unhelpful, though.
I mean, we are GNU, and we are Guile.  GNU has its own set of problems
that we’ll have to deal with, and it’s a very big organization with its
own history etc., so improving things is difficult.  But Guile is a
small community, and I’m sure we can improve.

To me, the lesson as a Guile co-maintainer is that we should be paying
more attention in general.  I consider myself partly responsible for
this in that, although I’m still officially co-maintainer, I haven’t
been paying much attention to what’s going on on the Guile channels.  We
shouldn’t let hostile conversations like the one you experienced on
#guile through.  Perhaps what we need is someone to step up and help out
with Guile?  We should all care.

Thank you,
Ludo’.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-08 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-07 15:25 my latest blog post Catonano
2018-06-07 16:28 ` Joshua Branson
2018-06-08  4:24   ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-08  6:18     ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-08 14:02       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-08  8:25     ` Catonano
2018-06-08 13:51       ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-08 14:25       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09  7:47         ` Catonano
2018-06-09 12:24           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 13:07             ` Catonano
2018-06-09 15:29               ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-09 13:51             ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-07 17:03 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-07 19:40   ` Catonano
2018-06-08  9:39     ` Nils Gillmann
2018-06-08  9:45       ` Catonano
2018-06-08 18:05     ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-09  7:00       ` Catonano
2018-06-09 10:39         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 10:52           ` Catonano
2018-06-09 12:14             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 13:03               ` Catonano
2018-06-10 10:53         ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-07 18:11 ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-06-07 21:45 ` Alex Vong
2018-06-08  9:15 ` Julien Lepiller
2018-06-08  9:34   ` Clément Lassieur
2018-06-08  9:45     ` Julien Lepiller
2018-06-08 13:50   ` Widen info Oleg Pykhalov
2018-06-08 13:59     ` Julien Lepiller
2018-06-08 13:49 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2018-06-09  5:59   ` my latest blog post Catonano
2018-06-09 22:49 ` myglc2
2018-06-10  0:51   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-10  6:55     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-06-10  9:07       ` Catonano
2018-06-10  9:29         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-10  9:30           ` Catonano
2018-06-10 10:37             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-10 10:45         ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-10 12:06         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-06-10  7:58     ` Catonano
2018-06-10  9:26       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-10  9:27         ` Catonano
2018-06-10 19:13           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-10  8:07   ` Catonano
2018-06-10 19:23     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-10  8:17 ` my latest blog post [everyone, please take a cooldown break] Nils Gillmann
2018-06-10 13:33   ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-10 14:18     ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-06-10 14:37       ` Kei Kebreau
2018-06-11  6:01         ` swedebugia

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://guix.gnu.org/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87tvqdl76e.fsf@gnu.org \
    --to=ludo@gnu.org \
    --cc=catonano@gmail.com \
    --cc=guix-devel@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).