2018-06-10 0:49 GMT+02:00 : > On 06/07/2018 at 17:25 Catonano writes: > > > I just published my latest blog post > > > > In this post I discuss Guix > > > > And I discuss Guile too > > > > I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset > > > > But I feel this is due > > > > Happy reading > > > > http://catonano.v22018025836661967.nicesrv.de/the-gnu-community.html > > Hi Catonano, > > Thank you for taking the time to contribute your thoughts. I am sorry to > see you getting so beat up by the responses. Unfortunately the > nit-picking of criticisms and the "we are busy, why don't you dig in and > fix it" responses occur too often on the Guix lists. > > Such responses are fundamentally unhelpful: A defensive response of > counter-criticism that spirals out of control buries the original input > and alienates potential new contributors. I agree with you that the > suggestion that you dig in and fix something you are struggling with is > a fundamentally unfriendly response. > > I appreciate the effort you made to learn Guix and the risk you took to > report on the problems you experienced. I am interested in getting to > the root causes of your frustration. I re-read your post and > emails. Would it be fair to say ... > > 1) The monad/daemon/store is presented as central to Guix and is very > difficult to understand. If a Guix user really needs to understand it, > it needs to be explained better. > > 2) Sending Guix users upstream for Guile support is not working. > > If these are correct, the reality is that only a few people on the > planet are in a position to address these issues. The rest of us have to > hope that they can see why it is important to stop coding long enough to > do so, perhaps in collaboration with a confused user or two ;-) > > - George > Thank you George, I appreciate this I alredy had 2 people writing to me _in private_ acknowledging my efforts I invited them to "come out" but they didn't So much for Guile friendliness People are scared to speak their minds Now, don't worry I won't revelate who you are I just want to record the sorry state of this community