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From: bill-auger <bill-auger@peers.community>
To: gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium.
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:43:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190218024324.38ae7178@parabola> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f82e937f-1d89-1237-c5b4-b5f152f055a7@riseup.net>

On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:06:20 -0500 Julie wrote:
> So... the same thing as Linux.

yes, much the same situation as linux, but with the very important
difference, that we have people like the good folks at linux-libre who
are constantly watching linux for new undesirables entering it, and
those people are actively and routinely removing anything non-free - no
such thing is happening for web browsers - no one is even watching


On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:06:20 -0500 Julie wrote:
> Are you saying, then, that we are specifically aware of proprietary
> software in ungoogled-chromium? Have stated what that proprietary
> software is?

i am saying that i am not aware of anyone making any such accusations
of non-free software being in that browser - but we are painfully aware
of the accusations against chromium, and it is sitting "on the table";
so we are very unfortunately compelled to address it - thats all

i am not personally wedded to any preference on *how* we should address
it; but we should address it

if ever someone raises the same concern with firefox, then we will be
compelled to address that, when or if that unfortunate day comes;
because that is exactly what the FSDG is for: to determine which
software is fit for free distribution, and which is not


On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:06:20 -0500 Julie wrote:
> Why? Are you opposed to individual distros making their own individual
> decisions?

not all "decisions" - only the most crucial and obvious decisions like
this one, regarding exactly what is "free software" and what is not
"free software" - because if we can not agree on what is and is not
"free software", then the term "free software" is meaningless, and
hence a FSDG-free distro is a pointless distinction

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-18  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87y3qvb15k.fsf@fastmail.com>
2019-02-02 19:20 ` [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium Marius Bakke
2019-02-03 18:16   ` Joshua Branson
2019-02-04  4:52     ` bill-auger
2019-02-04  5:52       ` brettg
2019-02-04  7:46       ` Ineiev
2019-02-04 10:56         ` bill-auger
2019-02-04 14:43           ` Jean Louis
2019-02-04 12:26       ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Julie Marchant
2019-02-04 15:03         ` bill-auger
2019-02-04 22:34       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-02-06 21:04         ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Marius Bakke
2019-02-07 23:52         ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-07 23:59           ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-16  8:00           ` bill-auger
2019-02-16 10:25             ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-16 14:18               ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-16 15:37                 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Adam Van Ymeren
2019-02-16 19:47                 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2019-02-16 20:01                   ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-16 20:06                     ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-17  1:39                       ` bill-auger
2019-02-17 22:33                         ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Ricardo Wurmus
2019-02-18 12:05                           ` bill-auger
2019-02-18 12:15                             ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-02-18 13:44                             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-02-18 19:22                               ` Simon Nielsen
2019-02-19 20:45                                 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " bill-auger
2019-02-16 20:07                   ` Alex Griffin
2019-02-17  1:49                     ` bill-auger
2019-02-17  1:37                 ` bill-auger
2019-02-17  2:30                   ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-17  2:42                     ` bill-auger
2019-02-17  4:19                       ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-17  7:43                         ` bill-auger
2019-02-17 14:06                           ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-18  7:43                             ` bill-auger [this message]
2019-02-17 20:55                 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-16 11:16             ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-02-16 12:55               ` ng0
2019-02-16 13:10                 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-02-18 13:47               ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2019-02-16 15:10             ` znavko
2019-02-16 15:50             ` Marius Bakke
2019-02-16 16:20               ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Amin Bandali
2019-02-16 16:33                 ` Marius Bakke
2019-02-16 19:27                   ` Amin Bandali
2019-02-17  2:20                   ` bill-auger
2019-02-16 16:34               ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-02-16 16:54                 ` Marius Bakke
2019-02-17  3:38                 ` bill-auger
2019-02-16 18:56             ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-19 16:28               ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-09 14:04       ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2019-02-03 20:21   ` Amin Bandali
2019-02-05  5:22   ` [bug#28004] " swedebugia
2019-02-12 15:58   ` [PATCH v2] " Marius Bakke
2019-02-18 22:43     ` [bug#28004] " Marius Bakke

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